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    Caro now, after the warmup

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    The level has just been incredibly high so far. Wow!

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    I can't get my stream to load anymore. Anyone has the same problem?

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    Sorry that this is out of sequence, but it took me 2 resurfacings to write it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirunna View Post
    You do realize we are talking about a 16 year old who's been thrown in one of the biggest competition in the season for the first time in her life and who has almost 0 international experience, right? She made a mistake, not a meltdown, it does not look good for her in regards to worlds but not making the team won't be a tragedy. She rightfully won her place on the Euro team. One more thing: last year, Polina K got 49 for her SP and looked who things turned out at the end of the competition.
    Well said Mirunna!

    I really liked Nikol at Russian Nationals. I do think that she is somebody to watch for the future. But I was really surprised that she was selected for the Russian European team.

    I thought she needed a bit of experience on the senior international stage (perhaps GP's or something like the NRW Trophy or Ondrej Nepela) before being sent to a big competition like the Europeans.

    Liza and Adelina got a season-and-a-half of international senior experience under their belts before they got into the Russian team for Euros. Now, they are both being talked about as potential top 5 finishers. But, Nikol is being deprived of the chance to make her name known, and is instead being thrown in at the deep end.

    For that reason, I would have sent Polina K to Euros this year instead, and kept Nikol for next year when (hopefully) she has more experience in senior events under her belt.

    I came in for a lot of criticism for saying this. They thought I was being hard on Nikol, who is doing well this year, and soft on Polina K, who is not doing well this year.

    But, I was trying to give both of them a chance to get themselves fully prepared for the big season coming up next year.

    Firstly, I do not subscribe to the argument that Polina K is not doing well. She was lying 4th after the Short Programme in Nationals, but slipped down the order after a couple of mistakes in the Free. But, everybody jumped on it, saying she is finished.

    Now the same is happening with Nikol. As Mirunna says, what happened to her today was not a meltdown; it was just a small mistake. But, everybody is jumping on it, saying she is not ready.

    This was what I was trying to prevent happening. Nikol put on a brilliant performance today, but because it is her first time on the senior international stage, people are focusing on the mistake. They are ignoring the fact that after 12 skaters (then 18), she has only 1 person in front of her!!! Even now, after 24 skaters, she only has 4 ahead of her!!!

    As Mirunna said, Polina K was in a similar position in last year's Euros and came back to finish 4th overall. So, who is to say Nikol will not come back as well?!

    It was Polina K's experience at last year's Euros that made me want to put her in the team this year, to prove the doubters wrong.

    But, the chance to do something that would benefit both girls has been missed. Instead, both girls are coming under criticism, instead of being praised. Which is totally unfair.

    SO LEAVE NIKOL AND POLINA K ALONE!!! THEY ARE TEENAGE GIRLS - THEY NEED SUPPORT, NOT UNNECESSARY CRITICISM!!!

    This is my last word on the subject. I didn't want to bring it up again, but I was so angered by the criticism Nikol was getting.

    So, let's just focus on the competition now!

    Good luck in the Free, Nikol!!! Hope you prove the doubters wrong!!! :D

    And good luck to Liza and Adelina in the next group!

    CaroLiza_fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by sequinsgalore View Post
    I can't get my stream to load anymore. Anyone has the same problem?
    I'm using the direct link I've used the past few days, and have had no problems all morning.

    http://www.ltv7.lv/files/player-lice...autostart=true

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    actually Polina K can score much higher if she skates clean
    and Polina K. can actually score good pcs compared to Nikol

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    Ok, all the streams are working for me again. I just panicked for a while...

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    warm up group now on ice

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    Carolina KOSTNER (ITA)

    Music: A Transylvanian Lullaby (from "Young Frankenstein" soundtrack) by John Morris
    The Devil's Trill by Guiseppe Tartini

    New dress... She kind of looks like a Christmas present.

    3Lo - nice!
    3T+3T - fall, oh no
    FCSp
    2A
    StSq - very nice
    CCoSp
    LSp

    Score: 33.36 + 31.93 - 1.00 = 64.19, in 1st (out of 25)
    Last edited by sequinsgalore; 01-25-2013 at 08:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggy View Post
    the level has just been incredibly high so far. Wow!
    yes

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    Caro did great minus the fall and she looks refreshed and youthful

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    I like caros dress. she is beautiful and a little different - as always

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    her scores leave door open for russian girls

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    Quote Originally Posted by euroskate View Post
    her scores leave door open for russian girls
    That is true but the score is big considering the fall. And it's ok because she was amazing on everything else

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    Elena GLEBOVA (EST)

    Music: Tales and Legends by Rolando Tambin

    3Lz - fall
    3T+3T
    2A
    FSSp
    LSp
    StSq
    CCoSp

    She has got some quite nice spins, I've never noticed.

    Score: 28.67 + 24.23 - 1.00 = 51.90, in 4th (out of 26)
    Last edited by sequinsgalore; 01-25-2013 at 08:40 AM.

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