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    Hype

    Osmondflation has now probably overtaken Chanflation, in terms of the inflation element. Osmond's scores at both Skate Canada and Canadian Nationals were absurd. Silly comparisons have been made with legendary skaters. Equally silly suggestions have been made that she can beat Kim, Mao, Ashley, Carolina to the World title. Indeed, I cannot think of any other skater who has been more overhyped and overrated in the entire history of figure skating than Kaetlyn Osmond

    Osmond: the most overhyped & overrrated skater ever? What do you think?

    Here is an article which typifies the ridiculous proportions that the hype has reached. Its title?:-

    Canada's Rising Star May Pose Challenge to Kim Yu-na
    I don't think so
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    i thought so until i saw her skate at her nationals,
    maybe a bit but not like all the u.s ladies
    she will be fighting mao, carolina kostner, adelina, elizaveta, probable ashely for the medals.

    for me ashely should be off the podium at worlds based on what i seen.

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    I think, by creating this thread, you are adding fuel to the fire. This thread has the potential to become something incredibly mean; she's only sixteen, for goodness's sakes!

    A lot of people seem to agree that she has a lot of potential and needs to grow into it-- I agree with that.

    And inflation at Nationals is nothing new.

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    I just find it funny I dont even visit the pcs gap with Yuna thread, lol
    some are insisting she will rack a 70+ score in SP, its was at Canadian Nationals notorious for having the inflated scores
    Carolina can barely even reach a 70+ score

    I she skates clean she might be around Ashley range in pcs and scoring
    she has a shot in Top 5 maybe bronze if others have a meltdown

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    Quote Originally Posted by aftertherain View Post
    I think, by creating this thread, you are adding fuel to the fire. This thread has the potential to become something incredibly mean; she's only sixteen, for goodness's sakes!

    A lot of people seem to agree that she has a lot of potential and needs to grow into it-- I agree with that.

    And inflation at Nationals is nothing new.
    Yes I agree! People seem to forget that behind it all these skaters are people too!, and Osmond is only 16! she has so much potential and is in my opinion an excellent skater. good for her that she is having this success!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    I just find it funny I dont even visit the pcs gap with Yuna thread, lol
    some are insisting she will rack a 70+ score in SP, its was at Canadian Nationals notorious for having the inflated scores
    Carolina can barely even reach a 70+ score

    I she skates clean she might be around Ashley range in pcs and scoring
    she has a shot in Top 5 maybe bronze if others have a meltdown
    Marked properly, she would just about scrape into the top 10. She is a talented skater who is being over promoted beyond her current abilities. She should be allowed to develop at her own pace. Long term, she has the potential to medal at a world championships in the next quad, but certainly not at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aftertherain View Post

    And inflation at Nationals is nothing new.
    but there are ranges in National inflation though
    like say how the current US nationals had the least inflation Wagner 64-66 Gold 51-54 etc.
    or Russian Nationals who also have low inflation mirroring scores B/S -68-69 and Sotnikova 64-68 etc.

    By Inflation Standards from highest to lowest national inflations

    1 Canada
    2 France
    3 Japan
    4 Italy
    5 Russia
    6 China
    7 USA

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    She can jump(though she got edges on both her flip and lutz at Skate Canada so she must figure that out)
    She is probably past puberty issues
    She can compete which is a rare quality
    Everything else can be improved but she's got what it's needed for a champion. Currently I don't think she is world podium material but who knows. All the top ladies are inconsistent except maybe Yuna Kim

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    i think the overinflated scores this is by ladies only-highest to lowest
    of the ones i seen, usa, italy, japan, russian, canada

    1) U.S.A.
    2)Italy
    3) korea
    3)russia
    4)canada
    5) japan

    for me italy and usa has tied and they aren't done yet. mao for what she did was low, yu-na in short was a high, long was passable,
    russian was okay, canada okay in short -bit high in long, italy, was no different.
    comparable scores japan is one of the lowest -for what skaters skated, but with mistakes okay.
    others didn't take enough off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fairly4 View Post
    sky fly 20
    i think the overinflated scores this is by ladies only-highest to lowest
    of the ones i seen, usa, italy, japan, russian, canada

    1) U.S.A.
    2)Italy
    3) korea
    3)russia
    4)canada
    5) japan

    for me italy and usa has tied and they aren't done yet. mao for what she did was low, yu-na in short was a high, long was passable,
    russian was okay, canada okay in short -bit high in long, italy, was no different.
    comparable scores japan is one of the lowest -for what skaters skated, but with mistakes okay.
    others didn't take enough off.
    usa as first in national inflation in ladies ?
    their current scoring have been conservative, not even near Osmonds's 70+ at Nationals

    Carolina got around 70+ at Italian Nationals, she would score around 68-69+ at Euros had she been clean, not that inflated
    Adelina got 65+ at Rus Nationals, got 67+ at Euros, so not that inflated at all
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    Breaking my policy of not talking about the boards on the boards -- I do agree that this thread does add fuel to the fire. If there is frusration by the amount of hype Kaetlyn gets on these boards, it seems counter intuitive to add yet another thread to The Edge. So far this year she's been the subject of half a dozen threads. I find that unnecessary.

    And while I find this hype of her a bit much, I think we ought to be careful not to show malice toward Kaetlyn herself. She has done nothing to merit such malice, should it come -- on this thread or otherwise. As I said on another thread, I think Kaetlyn as a skater and a person is terrific.

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    I think she's overhyped only by Canadians, who are understandably excited to have another good skater after a long dry spell (besides Rochette of course). I don't think anyone besides an uberfan thinks she will get (or deserves) PCS on par with Yuna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    I think she's overhyped only by Canadians, who are understandably excited to have another good skater after a long dry spell (besides Rochette of course). I don't think anyone besides an uberfan thinks she will get (or deserves) PCS on par with Yuna.
    I agree, saying she will get 70+ in SP and be almost at par with Yuna is pcs is a bit too much
    Carolina or Ashley wont even break a 70+ score

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    Breaking my policy of not talking about the boards on the boards -- I do agree that this thread does add fuel to the fire. If there is frusration by the amount of hype Kaetlyn gets on these boards, it seems counter intuitive to add yet another thread to The Edge. So far this year she's been the subject of half a dozen threads. I find that unnecessary.

    And while I find this hype of her a bit much, I think we ought to be careful not to show malice toward Kaetlyn herself. She has done nothing to merit such malice, should it come -- on this thread or otherwise. As I said on another thread, I think Kaetlyn as a skater and a person is terrific.
    Nobody is being unkind towards Kaetlyn personally. Personally, I think she is a talented skater who has the potential to medal at Worlds in the next quad if she continues to progress at the rate she is. The problem is with those behind the overhype. Ultimately, I think they are doing her a disservice by overhyping her, as the inflated expectations will act as an unwanted burden for her, which could ultimately stunt her development. She should be allowed to develop at her own rate. By allowing her to do so, I think she can ultimately become a major contender.

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    Re overhyping (as distinct from overrating):

    About a year ago, the hype over Gracie Gold seemed to be off the charts.
    And IMHO, virtually everyone seemed happy to embrace the hype. Skeptics, if any, remained under the radar. The mania was totally lopsided in her favor.

    OTOH, IMHO, cheerleaders for vs. skeptics of Osmond all along have equalled each other with the intensity of their support vs. doubts, respectively.

    Wishing both Osmond and Gold well as they continue with this season and future seasons. Seems safe to say that the best from each is yet to come.

    (If Gold qualifies for Four Continents, Worlds, and/or WTT, will be interesting to see how they fare head to head at this point. )
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