I never praised it, didn't watch it. Just know there were two disasterous programs in a row....
Yeah I didn't praise. I don't normally comment on Ashley. She's just not a favorite of mine.
I never praised it, didn't watch it. Just know there were two disasterous programs in a row....
I don't think that the people in the ISU and USFS who must deal with balance sheets and annual budgets agree with this view. Or maybe they do.
Look at it this way. (a) You offer a product to the public. (b) They find it unsatisfactory. (c) You dismiss them as morons and go on producing more of the same.
An unusual business model.
I don't think that the people in the ISU and USFS who must deal with balance sheets and annual budgets agree with this view. Or maybe they do.
Look at it this way. (a) You offer a product to the public. (b) They find it unsatisfactory. (c) You dismiss them as morons and go on producing more of the same.
An unusual business model.
Letting fans dictate the direction of skating and scoring because fans think that falls are the only thing that matters, has about as much credibility as someone at a public session asking if I'm going to the Olympics because I have white skates, or asking if I can do the "iron lotus" or a "camel toe". These people's opinions DO NOT matter.
So what is more important - the business model and the public opinion, or the skaters who actually have to do it?
Treating your customers like they have a brain seems to work in some industries, but not this one. Apparently some of the audience still doesn't get it. Protocols are available, the SP is available to view. And yet people still complain that the scoring is wrong. That's because they don't even bother to look at it.
They just see "fall in LP" equals "lose". There's more to it than that. If you want the kind of sport where there isn't more to it, then make it a jumping contest (no SP, no footwork, no music, no halfway bonus) where the falls count 10 times more than a UR. That seems to be what the public demands, right?
For people who don't think Ashley is insanely overscored, take a look at Yuna at 2009 Skate America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxNMhZugVAI
She had 3 clean triples, 3 clean 2As, and guess what, she got 111.7 for that performance. And back then, GOE actually got you a lot more points.
Wagner got 10 points more than freaking Yuna Kim and some people pretend to understand the score is appropriate? Seriously?
So what is more important - the business model and the public opinion, or the skaters who actually have to do it?
Treating your customers like they have a brain seems to work in some industries, but not this one. Apparently some of the audience still doesn't get it. Protocols are available, the SP is available to view. And yet people still complain that the scoring is wrong. That's because they don't even bother to look at it.
They just see "fall in LP" equals "lose". There's more to it than that. If you want the kind of sport where there isn't more to it, then make it a jumping contest (no SP, no footwork, no music, no halfway bonus) where the falls count 10 times more than a UR. That seems to be what the public demands, right?
And Gracie got 20 more points. And Mirai only got 2 fewer points. What's the point of comparing one competition from 3 years ago to this nationals? Why don't you look at the protocols of THIS event and decide what you disagree with in particular. Sorry to break it to you but everyone was overscored in the LP by a good 5-10 points.
Letting fans dictate the direction of skating and scoring because fans think that falls are the only thing that matters, has about as much credibility as someone at a public session asking if I'm going to the Olympics because I have white skates, or asking if I can do the "iron lotus" or a "camel toe". These people's opinions DO NOT matter.
And gracie was clean, so?
The point is this, even Yuna Kim's PCS took a big hit when she was a mess. Wagner's PCS actually improved by 3 points. What's the point? That's the point.
Sorry to break it to you, but if you are overscored by 5 points, and someone else is overscored by 10 points, that will make a difference. Do you understand that? Should I break it down further?
SP | BV | TES | falls | PCS ISU | Adj score = TES+ISUPCS+SP | |||||||
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zhang | 49.99 | 53.72 | 58.28 | 0 | 43.49 | CoR | 151.76 | |||||
miller | 54.47 | 54.23 | 55.01 | 0 | 47.32 | croatia | 156.80 | |||||
wang | 52.06 | 57.17 | 59.71 | 1 | 49.90 | placid jgp | 161.67 | |||||
cesario | 55.74 | 53.53 | 58.59 | 0 | 47.49 | austria | 161.82 | |||||
siraj | 57.88 | 56.97 | 60.24 | 0 | make her = | 50.54 | ? | 168.66 | ||||
nagasu | 64.39 | 49.44 | 49.80 | 1 | 59.14 | NHK | 173.33 | |||||
Hicks | 59.72 | 55.80 | 63.62 | 0 | hicks | 50.54 | placid jgp | 173.88 | ||||
Zawadzki | 65.31 | 49.69 | 54.18 | 1 | 55.53 | CoR | 175.02 | |||||
gao | 58.74 | 54.87 | 59.30 | 0 | 57.25 | SkAm | 175.29 | |||||
Gold | 54.08 | 60.31 | 71.14 | 58.10 | CoR | 183.32 | ||||||
Wagner | 67.57 | 54.03 | 57.45 | 2 | 62.56 | GPF | 187.58 |
I do feel bad for Mirai because before the marks I was hoping she would get 3rd. But, I can see why she wasn't on the podium. Her program was lifeless, just a list of elements that were barely gotten through. By Mirai's recent standards, however, it was a very good skate. Her lower technical content and her URs are what kills her. She has to really fight to rotate her jumps, whereas Zawadski's jumps look effortless when she executes them as planned. NBC should not have zoomed in on Mirai in the first moments of her disappointment. Of course she was going to react strongly since she always wears her emotions on her sleeve, but the viewing audience doesn't need to see it up close like that.
These fans would probably assign the highest base value to "camel toe" which would then be the most popular thing to do!
For those who blame COP for Gracie finishing behind Ashley, would Gracie be contending for a medal under 6.0, coming into FS with a 9th SP placement?