I think Hicks can be developed into something even more impressive than Gracie. Both should get 55 PCS MAX now. Gracie attempted, but she didn't really do anything to show she can listen to her music. Her face still looked like she was concentrating on the next element. Gracie was impressive in the jumps department. I said last year, and I'm saying it again, Gracie's packaging is all wrong. She isn't going to be a factor even if she is perfect. The likes of Mao, Yuna, and Carolina will bury her with just 4 clean triples. And Gracie has some nerve issue to boot. Caro can score 70+ on PCS internationally. Gracie at best is going to be in the mid 50. Non-factor.
Hicks bothered me with her mouth opened the entire time. She was so wild out there. And she rushed everything.
Between the two, Hicks seems to be handling pressure better. Hicks has the jumps. Just package her right, and she should be battling for bronze soon enough while waiting for Caro and Yuna to retire.
The amount of mistakes Gracie had over the entire course of the competition was falling on a jump and turning a double axel into a single.
The amount of mistakes Ashley had over the entire course of the competition was falling twice, turning two triples into doubles, leaving out a combination jump, and somewhat double-footing a jump.
So that's 2 mistakes for Gracie in this competition and 6 mistakes for Ashley.
Think about it.
Finally saw the top 8 ladies and then some! Hmmmmm Gracie def had the skate of the night, but Caroline Zhang was really close behind her IMHO. I think it's the best I've ever seen Zhang skate and I would have had her second in the free skate. Honestly. Though she wasn't the fastest, those final moments in her free were dazzling, and that inside/outside spiral... SO GOOD. And so fitting that a skater trained by Karen Kwan would do that move. There was a passion and strength in her skating I have never seen before. I also think that's the best dress she's ever worn.
I agree that Christina Gao was robbed of a medal. She was cleaner than Agnes, and her quality is so superior to Courtney. Unfortunately that pesky flying sit spin did her in, in both skates and gave the judges the breathing room they needed to keep her off the podium. I bet it messed with her PCS too in the free because that was the last thing we saw and it just was such a low impact. BTW her styling and costume was perfection. She looked so mature and S T U N N I N G.
Which triples did Ashley turn into doubles? Are you talking about not doing a 3f/3toe in the sp and a 2a/3toe in the free? She wasn't planning either at nationals so that does not count as a mistake.
Mirai was also really great. Still really sad she was scored so low, but I still watch it and feel she's on the right track. To me, she's demonstrated her ability to grow and learn from adversity and not let it stop her. If only she hadn't gotten the flu... UGH
Zhang's performance was empty. Seriously nothing between the elements and the elements themselves were not remarkable for the most part, aside from the wonderful spiral. Her jumps had more snap last year and even her formerly legendary Layback was greatly diminished here...only Level 3 and only deserving of +1 GOE. Compare her LP at this Nationals to what she did at 4CC last season:
Gracie made 2 mistakes. Ashley made 6. I do not feel Ashley is such a wonderful skater or gave such wonderful performances that she had a 4-mistake buffer over someone who already had an advantage in jump content.
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The blowhard-ing is really getting annoying. "There's a problem with 6.0, there's a problem with IJS, this never would have happened during ____ era, skating is no longer a sport, the fans are turned off, the fans will never watch skating again, the fans only want to see jumping, we have to do what the fans want or the USFS will lose money, the advertisers will lose money, the only thing that matters is not falling, falling is the worst thing you can do, it is worse than UR's or lack of skating skills, therefore the IJS system needs to be amended, so-and-so has to have a 3/3 or she will never be able to compete on the world stage, the sport is not progressing because nobody has landed a quint in 100 years, etc etc etc etc"
Letting fans dictate the direction of skating and scoring because fans think that falls are the only thing that matters, has about as much credibility as someone at a public session asking if I'm going to the Olympics because I have white skates, or asking if I can do the "iron lotus" or a "camel toe". These people's opinions DO NOT matter.
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Ashley isn't going for the 2a-3t?
I don't think that they're trying to knock Ashley but point out how it affected her score. With those doubled jumps, Ashley's SP + FS base value is 81.67 vs. 88.01 for Gracie, meaning that with her content, she had less room to make mistakes if she wants an equal technical score not counting GoEs.
Gracie lost about 7 points on the two errors in the short program, 4.2 points on the fall and UR in the combination and 2,8 for the 1A. With 7 more points she would have been 4th behind Mirai in the SP. But probably higher because her PCS would have gone up with a clean sjate.
Ashley lost about 3.10 for the fall on the Lutz, 5.87 for the fall on the loop combo, 0.1 points for the double-footed flip , and if you want to call scaling down the 2A+2T an "error," she left 2.6 point on the table there. Total 11.61, if you count it that way.
So, I don't know what all that means, but anyway...
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An unusual business model.
This was ceraintly an interesting event! I feel terrible for mirai and like others slightly perplexed by ashleys result, not going to get into that.....
gracie gold was incredible in the free skate, you could see her nerves on her face especially at the beginning, but that is understandable and she got the job done in spectacular fashion!
Courtney is an absolute firecracker, she jumps so high!!! her jumps are so beautiful, I enjoyed her skating even if she was a bit rough around the edges. I have never seen a skater come back from such an awful injury so well, I csn only imagine the work she put in to be skating like this now...wow!
Hamnnah miller is charming and samantha cesario is a really beautiful skater. Angela wang will be a formiddable force when she puts it all together, her jump technique makes jumping look so easy!
I was never a fan of Caroline Zhang as a young phenom, but in this event she made me a fan, she is such a fighter! that long program was such a triumh for her especially after the appalling scores in the short!