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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    Interesting analysis, I agree that in the last year the US ladies have been so unsettled: just two years ago, Alissa was seen as a potential 2014 Sochi medalist, now a lot of people suggest her retirement, the same for Rachael and Mirai, what a strange field...
    Good thing Gracie's still young She has many more years of skating ahead of her.

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    Alissa will be 26 in June, and she's had two surgeries on the same hip within the last 6 months. It does seem as if her skating career is over. Mirai will be 20 in April, and isn't over the hill just yet. She is young enough to rework her jump technique to ensure her jumps are fully rotated. The question is whether she is willing to do the hard work to get it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Alissa will be 26 in June, and she's had two surgeries on the same hip within the last 6 months. It does seem as if her skating career is over. Mirai will be 20 in April, and isn't over the hill just yet. She is young enough to rework her jump technique to ensure her jumps are fully rotated. The question is whether she is willing to do the hard work to get it done.
    I have a feeling that if Alissa can recover from her injury will try to go for it next year because it's in Olympic year even thought it's a looooooooooooong shot. Especially if Ashley and Gold don't do well at worlds (let's hope not!) then the field is sort of still open for the Olympic spots and Alissa might figure, what the heck. She's so badly wants to not end her career on a bad note.

    Mirai is in skating jail right now. But others have been there and come back so I agree it's not over for her.

    I'm excited for Gold's career. Fingers crossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flutzy13 View Post
    I think they were a tad inflated on the PCS end. I thought the program was maybe 127-128 but the judges were trying to pull her up after the free skate. That said, she was head and shoulders above everyone in the FS and deserved her silver completely so it wasn't any huge controversy.

    She scored a 58 PCS at Rostelecom Cup (GP) with some errors in the FS, so why not a 61 for a squeaky clean performance with attack and fire? She was rightfully dropped in the transition score in comparison to the rest of her PCS marks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BravesSkateFan View Post
    Then how do you explain the jump from PCS's in the 6's to PCS's in the 7's & 8's?
    Because she went from skating scared to attacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonlady View Post
    I just feel like Gracie is this year's sacrificial lamb: the talented young skater everyone builds up after Nationals, only to tear to shreds next season.
    I feel the same way, DL. Her star will dim and if SHE (as if it were her sole responsibility) doesn't bring back 3 Olympic spots, the shredder will start a grinding.

    Re her statement in the Brennan article regarding the two other medalists deserving to be there with her. If Ashley had said something like that, the attacks would have been rampant. Ashley who? lol Gold has somewhat licked the icing off Ashely's cake for the moment.


    Re the jump in her pcs scores from short to long: the same thing happened with Max.
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    Ref: "I just want to congratulate these other two women because they are amazing and they push me," she said. "They skated great short programs and really good long programs and they deserve to be here with me."
    I just wanted to say you all deserve to be on this forum with me....
    Sometimes we say things that dont come out just right. I do it all the time.
    As far as Gracie's PCSs, to Quote Mr.Pirsig, "Quality in thought and deed is , "Just what you like."
    Take away "cute" and all Tara L. had was tricks she could do due to being 73 lbs.

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    This hype is ridiculous pressure on her. There are people who would have torn her to shreds after the SP, and then glorified her after her comeback FS.

    Based on talent and consistency, Gold is the real deal. She is one of the only US skaters capable of 3F-3T and 3Z-3T, and she has already cemented a win on the GP circuit this year. I knew she would climb in the standings in the FS, but didn't expect it to be by that much. That being said, not only did she skate brilliantly, several skaters above her faltered, which is what she needed to make Worlds. She's very talented and the expectations on her are considerable. She should place top 10 at Worlds, though, I'm predicting.

    As far as bringing back 3 spots to the US olympic team, I don't understand why people put pressure on that. It's not like the 3rd spot would have a vastly greater chance at making the podium - it would just be another entry. If anything the 3rd spot makes it less pressure on herself to place in the top 2 at next year's Nationals - which I believe she will, barring injury or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoyoteChris View Post
    Ref: "I just want to congratulate these other two women because they are amazing and they push me," she said. "They skated great short programs and really good long programs and they deserve to be here with me."
    I just wanted to say you all deserve to be on this forum with me....
    Sometimes we say things that dont come out just right. I do it all the time.
    As far as Gracie's PCSs, to Quote Mr.Pirsig, "Quality in thought and deed is , "Just what you like."
    Take away "cute" and all Tara L. had was tricks she could do due to being 73 lbs.
    And we rejoice in the honor, Chris!

    Seriously, though, I think you're right about stuff that comes out of our mouths that we meant in an entirely different way. How good were any of us at saying the appropriate thing when we were seventeen years old? And with cameras and microphones from all over the world trained on us? Forget it! I'd have shamed myself for life three or four times a week.

    I love your evaluation of Tara. For some years I was terrified that from 1998 on, skating judges would so value the sprite factor that we'd end up with a bunch of "senior" skaters who had amazingly rapid (but tiny) jumps for about six months, during which time they would win Worlds, skating to Smurf music, and then would grow to human size and have to retire at fifteen and a half. Thank goodness for Michelle, Irina, and Maria Butyrskaya, who kept that from happening.
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    Olympia - I love your comment:

    I love your evaluation of Tara. For some years I was terrified that from 1998 on, skating judges would so value the sprite factor that we'd end up with a bunch of "senior" skaters who had amazingly rapid (but tiny) jumps for about six months, during which time they would win Worlds, skating to Smurf music, and then would grow to human size and have to retire at fifteen and a half. Thank goodness for Michelle, Irina, and Maria Butyrskaya, who kept that from happening.

    I am really looking forward to watching Gracie in the future. I hope that she can resurrect whatever mindset pushed her in that long program. Her jumps are beautiful - or as Sandra Bezic said, "Olympic gold medal quality!" I think with another year of maturing and hopefully a great choreographed program......she could pass Ashley! Heresy some of you may say, but she's charming, adorable, skates with more speed and just looks like she's having fun out there. Taking nothing away from what Ashley has accomplished, I find her programs almost too robotic sometimes. She's all business! I like the joyfulness that Gracie exhibited in her lp.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Pasquale or Marina Z do her programs initially this coming season. She has a relationship with Marina Z from spending a couple weeks with the Canton Crew working on effortless skating and I suspect Alex O may send her back for a couple MORE weeks after the season is over.

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    I'd love to see Pasquale do her programs. I haven't been that crazy about Marina's programs for singles.

    Heck, I'd like Bezic to come out of retirement as a choreographer and make a program for Gracie. Gracie is the female Boitano V. 1986-1987, just needs a Bezic to find the program.

    Which reminds me...suggestions for music/programs for Gracie next year?

    Be serious. I you suggest something about Smurf's or Peter Pan "I'm Flying" I will know you are not serious

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    Coyote, I just want you to know you deserve, really, really deserve, to be in the same thread as moi. Congratulations. lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by mskater93 View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if Pasquale or Marina Z do her programs initially this coming season. She has a relationship with Marina Z from spending a couple weeks with the Canton Crew working on effortless skating and I suspect Alex O may send her back for a couple MORE weeks after the season is over.
    I'd like to see Jeff Buttle take a shot at one of her programs, actually. He did a nice job with Hanyu's SP.

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    The thing about Gracie is that her jumps get so much air under them that she completes the revolutions high above the ice, then has the leisure to look down and pick her landing spot. I have never seen anything like it.

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