She's worked with Marina Zoueva and there's definitely been artistic improvement throughout the season. However, she needs to work on projecting her emotions and controlling her airplane arms, but she'll need to be calm.Originally Posted by goldseal11
The would ^^^^^ make more sense if you used theemoticon or even
...which is what I suspect you meant.
Of course, but emoticons are so... in your face, I prefer the subtle way.
Last edited by Puchi; 01-31-2013 at 12:17 PM.
On a forum where English is often someone's third or second language, it's better to be clear than to be subtle. I can assure you that a large part of the complaints moderators receive are for posts that the people who posted them thought were funny, ironic, or sarcastic, or all three.
Of course, emoticons have their own pitfalls. You'd be surprised how often "laugh" which is this little guyis interpreted in a negative way, as though the poster were laughing at another poster in a sarcastic way.
It's too bad really, because nuance & humor enrich written communication, for sure.
At Skate Canada, Kaetlyn got "e" on both flip and lutz, so therefore she was 'futzing'.
I believe that's the 1/12 times on the flip rvi5 was referring to. In that same FS where Osmond had an edge call on her flip, she did a clean one too with no edge call. Clearly it was a bit of a fluke, as it was such a close edge call at that by the looks of it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSBSXEn_Lvs). It's so weird though because she always edge calls on her lutz so the flip should have been on an inside edge. It's rare to have a skater that has edge calls on both flips and lutzes.
As per above. Sasha Cohen. It does happen.
Mirai Nagasu, too
Too true.
The would ^^^^^ make more sense if you used the
...which is what I suspect you meant.This guy is the best one:Of course, but emoticons are so... in your face, I prefer the subtle way.
OMG! I was in the middle of a big post when my laptop crashed, noooo. OK, here's another try.
Puchi: I, too, prefer the subtlety of written sarcasm without the emoticon.
I must say that I disagree with this analysis. The skaters who tend to "dominate" in this sport tend to be those who are technical, artistic, AND consistent. Kwan is memorable because of her astonishing performance abilities, but let's not forget that she started off as a wee little jumping bean...and her career was so successful because she continued to land jumps.
Also, if YuNa is not considered to be the best jumper of "her time", then who is? For at least the last quad there are a number of posters/fans arguing the point of view that she actually was (in the appropriate thread just over there) - and I happen to agree.
Midori Ito's spectacular jumping talent was matched by a quaint, joyful presentation style on the ice when she was not distressed with the heavy pressure to win. She was unlucky to have competed for part of her career when her relatively weaker skills in figures were still a major part of competitions. Later on, her rival Kristi Yamaguchi was also no slouch in the technical department.
Young Mao Asada was a jumping prodigy with her many 3-3's (especially 3-3Loop combos) plus 3A's. However, on closer inspection some of her jumps were marred by flawed edges and/or underrotations and the ISU started cracking down on those. Compare with young YuNa Kim, who by the time she was 13 (or was it 12?) had the full complement of the 5 standard triples with pristine technique. And, like Kwan, although she showed a musical sensitivity early on, it was the strong technical foundation which allowed her to continue to develop and refine her artistic abilities. YuNa Kim was very much a strong jumper, and many would argue that it was her stronger jumping abilities (consistency, speed, clean technique, etc.) that allowed her to achieve greater success in the long run (for now.)
To me, both Osmond and Gold are well-rounded skaters without any major weakness, and this bodes well for both of them. Gold has the edge in jumps for their power, technique and difficulty; Osmond is a firecracker of a performer. I am very excited for both of them!But, I have to admit, I really love it when a skater has clean, powerful jumps, because they have a beauty all on their own. And, as I described above, I believe that it is generally easier to become a top competitor when you start out with a strong(er) technical foundation; for Gold, it seems like the sky's the limit, whether she wants to work on 3A's next or focus on developing/refining her artistry and presentation abilities (or both.) I think the same with little miss Liza.
BTW I like this particular segment of Gold's FS: (2:01-2:13) - really love how the jump hits the highlight of that phrase and then when the music comes to a hush she makes a flourish with her arms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU6osJzg368&t=2m01s
...so yeah. TL;DR = I seem to prefer good jumpers who develop their artistry later.
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You know about the "autosave" feature for recovering lost posts, right?OMG! I was in the middle of a big post when my laptop crashed, noooo. OK, here's another try.
http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sho...have-Auto-Save!!!
No, I didn't! Thanks, I will turn that on from now on.
Gracie's jumps are really big in height and cover good distance, but is it just me or do her landings look a little stiff? I think it may be that unlike most skaters who land with softer knees, she doesn't really bend her knee that much on the landing. Also she checks her landings pretty quickly. A nice two-count hold on her landings would be great and improve her presentation. I may just be that she's rushing a little.
Just an observation...
I agree 100% especially with the second point. Her air positions are really great and her height is also good, but the exits could be improved on slightly. That said, not sure she has much incentive to improve with the GOEs she's currently getting...
Maybe not on the jumps as much, but for the sake of presentation and presence, she definitely could work on finishing out her movements, holding positions longer, relaxing her shoulders and arms, and getting deeper into her knees. Right now there is a little bit of the sense that she's rushing her movements, and she just needs to slow down (not literally) and take time to create those "moments" in a program.
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