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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    One should not be thought a bad person for hating gloves & ruffled shirts.

    One should not be thought a bad person for liking them either.

    Urmanov had some preposterous outfits, particularly the one for his Egyptian themed program. I don't remember whether he was still amateur or a pro at the time.
    That one didn't have either gloves or ruffles.
    There's a difference between thinking a costume is bad and casting aspersions over someone's gender by claiming that one particular skater "skated like a dude" (thus implying that the other men did not, thus were not men).

    There are plenty of costumes I don't like - I hate Jason Brown's SP costume, for instance. But only because I think that between the ruffles, puffy sleeves, and asymmetrical waistcoat, it murders his natural bodyline. Not for any other reason. But I think he skates well and I don't care if he doesn't fit someone's outdated opinion of what "skating like a dude" is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karne View Post
    There's a difference between thinking a costume is bad and casting aspersions over someone's gender by claiming that one particular skater "skated like a dude" (thus implying that the other men did not, thus were not men).

    There are plenty of costumes I don't like - I hate Jason Brown's SP costume, for instance. But only because I think that between the ruffles, puffy sleeves, and asymmetrical waistcoat, it murders his natural bodyline. Not for any other reason. But I think he skates well and I don't care if he doesn't fit someone's outdated opinion of what "skating like a dude" is.
    By no means do I want to get in an argument about this. However, saying one man "skates like a dude" does not imply that the others were not men, at least not in my mind. Some skaters skate more masculine than others - that's just the way it is. Like Ziggy said, they're not all going to conform to the traditional ideas of what masculine means. Not all of them are going to be the same, which is good, because that would be boring. Neither style is better than the other, and I enjoy watching them both. I tend to prefer watching the more "manly" skaters, but that's simply a personal preference for viewing, not any kind of prejudice. I enjoy Johnny Weir and I enjoy Max Aaron, but I don't think it can be denied that one has a more masculine style than the other.

    Anyway, getting back more on topic, I'm sad to hear that Jonathan Cassar is retiring :( That will make his lovely skate at Nationals even more meaningful if it is his last one. Does anyone know right off hand what his highest Nationals finish was?

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    Jonathan's Competitive History from his IN bio

    2013 - U.S. Championships - 11th
    2013 - Pacific Coast Sectional - 2nd
    2012 - U.S. Championships - 11th
    2012 - Pacific Coast Sectional - 2nd
    2011 - Ondrej Nepela Memorial - 4th
    2011 - U.S. Championships - 11th
    2011 - Pacific Coast Sectional - 1st
    2010 - Finlandia Trophy - 7th
    2010 - U.S. Championships - 12th
    2010 - Midwestern Sectional - 4th
    2010 - Eastern Great Lakes Regional - 3rd
    2009 - U.S. Championships - 16th
    2009 - Midwestern Sectional - 3rd
    2008 - Coupe de Nice - 7th
    2008 - U.S. Collegiate Championships - 2nd
    2008 - Midwestern Sectional - 5th
    2007 - U.S. Collegiate Championships - 4th
    2007 - U.S. Championships - 9th
    2007 - Midwestern Sectional - 3rd
    2007 - Eastern Great Lakes Regional - 2nd
    2006 - U.S. Collegiate Championships, Junior - 1st
    2006 - U.S. Championships, Junior - 8th
    2006 - Midwestern Sectional, Junior - 4th
    2006 - Eastern Great Lakes Regional, Junior - 1st
    2005 - Midwestern Sectional, Junior - 9th
    2005 - Eastern Great Lakes Regional, Junior - 2nd
    2004 - Midwestern Sectional, Novice - 5th
    2004 - Eastern Great Lakes Regional, Novice - 2nd
    2003 - North American Challenge Skate (Thornhill), Novice - 6th
    2003 - Midwestern Sectional, Novice - 6th
    2003 - Eastern Great Lakes Regional, Novice - 2nd
    2002 - North American Challenge Skate (Dieppe), Novice - 6th
    2002 - U.S. Junior Championships, Intermediate - 5th
    2002 - Eastern Great Lakes Regional, Intermediate - 1st
    2001 - Eastern Great Lakes Regional, Intermediate - 4th
    2000 - U.S. Junior Championships, Juvenile - 12th
    2000 - Eastern Great Lakes Regional, Juvenile - 4th
    1999 - Eastern Great Lakes Regional, Juvenile - 6th

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    Oh... so it's true Cassar is retiring... Thank you so much for the info on Mr. Cassar, doris & ryanbfan.
    I wish he will be staying with skating world, even if it may be only partially, for the sake of US figure skating. But whatever he chooses to do, I wish Jonathan all the best on his next chapter in his life!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    Alexander Johnson got an international event! Good going USFS, definitely well deserved.

    He will be taking part in Challenge Cup later this month.
    Thank you, Ziggy! Hope he does very well there!, so that he will get a third spot at SkateAmerica next season!

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    Thank you dorispulaski. Looks like 9th in 2007 was his highest finish. Best of luck to Jonathan with whatever he chooses to do with the rest of his life

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