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Thread: 2013 US Nationals Senior Men LP

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    Let's face it, Jeremy would not win a medal at World's. He cannot do a quad lately (though he has in the past). Max had the best long program of the night and unlike Gracie, didn't bomb in the short. Ross was excellent, too, and he will go to World's. I agree he may do better than Max. We'll see how Max does with pressure on him. Tonight there was none.

    These boys will get some international exposure, and Max will have a year to work on whatever weaknesses he has in "interpreting the music" by looking miserable and wringing his hands. He could be a contender for a medal in 2018, as could Ross. None of these guys were about to win in Sochi.

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    I'll always be a Jeremy fan. He is an exquisite artist and that's why I enjoy watching him.

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    Maybe if Jeremy had placed as high as Ashley did at Worlds last year, he may have had special treatment. But you just can't count on him to perform at the highest competitive standards. The US may just as well have Max and Ross, I don't think it makes a difference really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitneyskates View Post
    So what are the chances that we could end up with only 1 spot for Sochi?
    Small. I suppose it's possible that Max Aaron completely flops on the world stage and places 18th while Miner finishes 11th like he did during his previous Worlds appearance. That combined total of 29 would equal one place at Sochi. However, I doubt they'll do quite so poorly.

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    You know, I'm OK with this result. I guess I'm in the minority here. Aaron took care of business in TES.

    I agree that his PCS was a bit high and he has a lot of work to do in the choreography/performing aspect but he actually has OK skating skills and he has a ton of speed, something that Ryan Bradley didn't.

    The thing Aaron has going for him is consistency. He's a dark horse because he is consistent with his jumps. The fact is that Jeremy would have won if he didn't risk the quad and did a clean program, but he took that risk.

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    I'm happy with the results based on the performances. I agree Max will not get these kind of marks at Worlds, but he is the future of our sport. We might as well give someone like him competitive experience on the big stage rather than holding up skaters who don't have the competitive nerve to perform world-class difficulty. I do feel bad for Jeremy but he was just so slow out there today for most of his program. He really looked like he just didn't want to make any big mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Jeremy's problem is the quad. He doesn't have one. By opening with a certain fall he throws the whole program off. Leave off the quad, J., and instead concentrate on not doubling your triples.
    This is Jeremy's real problem this season. He has been doubling out way too much this season. I've never known him to do that until this season where he confusingly has come down with popitis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsisjiejie View Post
    Can you be more specific?

    ETA: I don't agree with the judges that Aaron's PCS should be higher than Farris's or Rippon's, or Brown's. That is definitely very wrong.
    Well, you posted exactly what made my left eyebrow go on its upward journey. Max skated very well and deserved a very high TES, but there is no way he is going to get a single 9, 8 or even high 7s in PCS internationally. Not even if he lands 8 quads. No way. This is Ryan Bradley at 2011 Nationals all over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by macy View Post
    I thought josh should have been 2nd or 3rd....Ross and Max are going to get eaten up at worlds. So upset for Jeremy...honestly a coaching change might do him good.

    We really needed a skater like Jeremy to do well, but since he blew it...

    Ross has some international cred. and next in line. I see nothing wrong with him going?

    Max is a question mark, but not a bad pick. The truth is that the US needed a strong anchor to get three spots for the Olympics, but Jeremy left no other choice. The US no longer should think about three spots, just do a respectable showing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evangeline View Post
    Well, you posted exactly what made my left eyebrow go on its upward journey. Max skated very well and deserved a very high TES, but there is no way he is going to get a single 8 or even high 7s in PCS internationally. Not even if he lands 8 quads. No way. This is Ryan Bradley at 2011 Nationals all over again.
    But unlike Ryan Bradley, Max Aaron delivered. Bradley actually skated a very flawed FS and won on the strength of his SP. Max only made one error in spinning out of the 3A in the FS and did two very solid programs.

    I bet Ross will be hitting himself on the head for missing that 3A. But he seem like he was a good sport -- I think he's happy he's going to Worlds.

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    Hate to say this, Max Aaron needs to get a Morozov program. Basically the only kind he is going to be comfortable with that also hides his weaknesses.
    Farris deserved second.
    Seriously what's with the costumes? Aaron and Dornbush both looked like they were walking out of a workout gym. Jeremy's shirt needed ironing, unless wrinkly was the look he was going for...color of that shirt was awful too. Fashion-wise, US men are so much shabbier than Euro guys....

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    Wow!!! What a competition!!!

    I'm watching the medal ceremony on Ice Network. Jeremy went to congratulate Max & Ross. I think he said, pointing to both of them, 'go get those 3 spots at Worlds!!!'

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    Question for you guys - if consistency is what you are looking for - would you rather have Evan back for Sochi - with triples for the team event?

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    Jeremy was not the strong anchor we need. I think it is Ross, and he gets to go.....

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    USFS should be announcing mens and womens teams within the next few hours, for 4CC, Worlds, Jr. Worlds. Wonder if we will see any surprises....

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