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    Quote Originally Posted by wallylutz View Post
    Gao is better off pursuing Harvard full time seriously - she never made the podium at U.S. Nationals, it's simply absurd to think she will suddenly be the 1st runner up at 4CC in a competition that is a lot stiffer than the U.S. Nationals.
    I agree that Gao is unlikely to finish 1st runner up at 4CC, but I don't agree that the competition is a lot stiffer. Sure, Mao, Osmond, and Suzuki, if she is skating well, are top notch, but when you get past those 3, the competition for Gold, Gao, etc isn't any tougher than US Nationals. US Nats are probably deeper in the 6-10 placements than 4CC. Take one of my favorites, C.Zhang as an example. Fourth last year at US Nats, yet with a bronze at 4CC.

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    Ladies
    1.Mao Asada:Becuase it's going to be held in her home country, she's not going to lose her gold unless she makes major mistakes.
    2.Gracie Gold:Another silver for Gracie. I realized that ever since Jr.Worlds 2012, she always gets silver medal if she manages to get any.
    3.Kaetlyn Osmond:She is really consistent so far.
    4.Suzuki Akiko:Unless she manages to do either NHK/GPF performance again, she won't be on the podium.

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    Well, I hope V/M wins, but they haven't been doing well with their FD.

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    Gracie
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    The score seems a tad high for a FS with 3 clean triples:
    115.89 57.28 59.61 7.32 7.25 7.61 7.46 7.61 1.00 3fe+2t, 3ze↓, 2a+3t, 3s, 3f, 3t-so, 2a+2t+2t
    Eh, people have scored higher with less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue View Post
    Eh, people have scored higher with less.
    Yes, like reigning World Champion and multiple World medalwinner Carolina Kostner, and reigning Olympic silver medalwinner and two-time World Champion Mao Asada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    The score seems a tad high for a FS with 3 clean triples:
    115.89 57.28 59.61 7.32 7.25 7.61 7.46 7.61 1.00 3fe+2t, 3ze↓, 2a+3t, 3s, 3f, 3t-so, 2a+2t+2t
    But what exactly was marked too high? It's not fair to throw out accusations if you can't back them up.

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    Last edited by Ziggy; 02-02-2013 at 06:40 PM.

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    Ladies:
    1) Asada
    2) Osmond
    3) Gold or Murakami

    Men:
    1) Hanyu
    2) Takahashi
    3) Aaron

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    I'm really bummed that Murakami hasn't been able to skate her programs to their potential because the programs themselves are lovely this year, particularly her short. I think many were surprised to see her in 2nd (and Alena in 1st, at that) after the SP, but I wasn't surprised to see her. She's always been a favourite of mine.
    Yes, I adore Murakami's SP this year and very much like her FS. I just think that unfortunately, even if she lands all her jumps she will get some underrotations (and an edge call on her Lutz.) I'm really pulling for her to have a good showing, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    The competition is in Japan and there are four Asian judges (CHN, JPN, TPE, KOR). I don't expect to see more than one non-Asian skater on the Men's and Ladies podiums.

    MEN
    1. Hanyu or Takahashi
    2. Takahashi or Hanyu
    3. Aaron
    4. Han Yan
    5. Miner
    6. Mura


    LADIES
    1. Mao
    2. Gao
    3. Li
    4. Gold
    5. Murakami
    6. Osmond

    PAIRS
    1. Duhamel/Radford
    2. Moore-Towers/Moscovitch
    3. Castelli/Shnapir
    4. Scimeca/Knierim
    5. Peng/Zhang
    6. Lawrence/Swiegers

    DANCE
    1. Davis/White
    2. Virtue/Moir
    3. Shibutanis
    4. Chock/Bates
    5. Gilles/Poirier
    6. Reeds
    Why do you have Gao doing so well? She skated virtually perfectly at Nationals (one error on a spin in the short, and a much smaller error on a spin in the long) and still was beaten by Wagner who skated awful, Gold who had an awful short, Zawadzki who fell in the short and fell apart in the long, and young Hicks. I honestly think she wil do well to match her 5th place from Nationals in this field.

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    Alright, let's do this!

    Men
    Since I have nothing else to go on and a half baked theory is better than tossing a coin, I'm going to go and say that they're taking turns at first place like civilized gentlemen. Therefore...

    1. Takahashi
    2. Hanyu
    3. Miner
    4. Song
    5. Reynolds

    Ladies
    Hope Akiko's not actually going through a slump like some are suggesting

    1. Asada
    2. Osmond
    3. Suzuki
    4. Gold
    5. Murakami

    Pairs
    Predicting a Cdn sweep here just because its not THAT far fetched in this scenario

    1. Duhamel/Radford
    2. Moore-Towers/Moscovitch
    3. Lawrence/Swiegers
    4. Peng/Zhang
    5. Castelli/Shnapir

    Dance
    There's something wonky going on with the technical stuff of V/M's FD, and the changes they've made so far haven't been working. Don't know if they'll get the kinks out in time for 4CCs, but I doubt it'd be as polished as D/W's FD at this point either way.

    1. Davis/White
    2. Virtue/Moir
    3. Shibutani/Shibutani
    4. Chock/Bates
    5. Gilles/Poirier

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    Men:
    1-Hanyu
    2-Takahashi
    3-Aaron
    4-Miner

    Ladies:
    1-Asada
    2-Gold
    3-Suzuki
    4-Zawadski

    Pairs:
    A Canadian sweep

    Dance:
    1-Davis & White
    2-Virtue & Moir
    3-Chock & Bates
    4-Shibutanis
    Last edited by merrywidow; 02-04-2013 at 01:06 PM. Reason: computer tacked the 2nd & 3rd place ladies choices on after Dance predictions???

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    Quote Originally Posted by vera01 View Post
    Ladies
    1.Mao Asada:Becuase it's going to be held in her home country, she's not going to lose her gold unless she makes major mistakes.
    2.Gracie Gold:Another silver for Gracie. I realized that ever since Jr.Worlds 2012, she always gets silver medal if she manages to get any.
    3.Kaetlyn Osmond:She is really consistent so far.
    4.Suzuki Akiko:Unless she manages to do either NHK/GPF performance again, she won't be on the podium.

    Ice Dance
    Well, I hope V/M wins, but they haven't been doing well with their FD.
    V and M have had more problems with their short and their lifts in the FD - it isn't looking good either way for them. The bronze is open in dance after D and W and then V and M. THis is the Shibutanis chance to recliam their NA third status in the absence of W and P. If they get beaten by their American teammates it will be a huge blow - even bigger if Gilles and Poirier sneak past them - unlikely but you never kow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Why do you have Gao doing so well? She skated virtually perfectly at Nationals (one error on a spin in the short, and a much smaller error on a spin in the long) and still was beaten by Wagner who skated awful, Gold who had an awful short, Zawadzki who fell in the short and fell apart in the long, and young Hicks. I honestly think she wil do well to match her 5th place from Nationals in this field.
    Not to mention this is Gao's first major test on the senior international stage. A top 6 finish would be stellar.

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    Gao could be one of those skaters who does better internationally versus nationally. Usually at Nationals, some skaters get big inflation in their PCS scores compared to internationally, and others get about the same. Christina's PCS at nationals were about the same from what she got on the GP, whereas someone like Agnes' or Gracie in the FS, got a significant PCS bump at Nationals from what they usually get internationally. So considering that I could see Gao doing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverFish View Post
    Not to mention this is Gao's first major test on the senior international stage. A top 6 finish would be stellar.
    Well, she was at the GP Final. I'd call that a major senior international.

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    Ice Dance:

    Gold: Davis/White
    Silver: Shib Sibs
    Bronze: Virtue/Moir
    4th: Chock/Bates
    5th: Gilles/Poirier
    6th: Reed Sibs

    Shibutanis in silver place is obviously going out on a limb, but their programs have come such a long way since the beginning of the season, especially their FD. So part of this is wishful thinking and part of it is thinking they could really pull ahead of V/M if they keep improving incrementally (the stars align just right)

    Surprise: Look at Silver


    Pairs:
    Gold: Duhamel/Radford
    Silver: Castelli/Shnapir
    Bronze: Cheng/Hao
    4th: Scimeca/Knierim
    5th: Moore-Towers/Mascovitch
    6th: Zhang/Bartholomay

    Yup, the Americans get three pairs skaters into the top 6...but easier to do when their are only 8 teams.

    Surprise: C/S move up to gold and S/K move up to bronze


    Men:
    Gold: Takahashi
    Silver: Hanyu
    Bronze: Minor
    4th: Aaron
    5th: Ten
    6th:Takahito

    Takahashi and Hanyu rule this event. Minor gets the best of Aaron at this competition and perhaps is a sign of things to come in Men's US skating

    Surprise: Aaron takes silver


    Ladies:
    Gold: Asada
    Silver: Osmond
    Bronze: Gao
    4th: Gold
    5th Murakami
    6th: Suzuki

    I hate putting Suzuki this low, so if she can regain her early season form, she'll move up to at least 3rd. Besides Suzuki, I think Gold really is the wild card hear. At US Nationals Gold stated (paraphrase) that she could come back from a poor SP to do a flawless FS and put up huge scores. I'm not quite sure that is the lesson to be learned, but will see if, and how, mentally prepared she is for 4CC. If she comes out on fire it'll be an interesting competition for silver and possibly even gold with Asada, Osmond, Gold, and Suzuki eying the top spot.

    Surprise: Li Zijun, the Chinese upstart, has taken the last 2 1/2 months to really polish and refine her FS, takes bronze in the process.

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