I don't know why Gracie fans would call Yu-Na a lipper. Because GRACIE is a lipper!
Simply the best.
AFAIK, shine is not a Gracie fan. A hard-core Carolina fan? YES. As for shine's remark about Yuna's flip, just
Simply the best.
This is a very interesting analysis! ITA about Yuna's toe jumps bring back the memories of Ito's. The mere fact that Yuna rarely, almost never, gets URs on her 3-3s is just remarkable.
Originally Posted by SkateNater
Last edited by l'etoile; 02-07-2013 at 10:45 AM.
can't come down to Earth
Originally Posted by chuckm
That's why, chuck. (I'm NOT referring to shine here at all.)
Originally Posted by prettykeys
SkateNater - I agree that from a technique point of view, a Flutz IS a big deal and should be penalized severely. Not just because of its base value, but the reason behind the base value - the supposed counter-rotational nature of the jump. When a skater Flutzes the takeoff, they are doing away with one of the major distinguishing features of the jump, so it has two impacts on the athletic value of the program: 1) simply not doing 3Lutz properly; 2) not displaying the same variety of skating skill (doing a double-Lutz would fulfill this aspect.)
However, when judging a skater overall, if they are technically outstanding otherwise and are a great performer, whether they have a Flutz is a relatively minor thing, in my opinion.
And yes, YuNa pre-rotates very little on her 3T.
My placement of the ladies:
The only thing I feel pretty sure about is that Christina Gao is gonna follow the steps of Mirai Nagasu and Caroline Zhang, placing first of the US ladies at a 4CC and will never go to a Worlds this quad...
Also that Wagner might flop at Worlds.
Strangely I prefer all three of the Europeans medalists to Osmond, but I actually like her better than anyone but Asada here. If only Kanako isn't a permanent UR target.
dunno whether they will or not but i think m-t/m should overtake megan and eric anytime now. i was at canadian nationals and although moore towers and moscovitch had a phenomenal skate, they did not skate flawlessly like megan and eric did. megan and eric have peaked. kirsten and dylans spings weren't very good on time and she two footed the last throw. that would make up for at least 3 - 4 points putting kirstan and dylan ahead. really depends on how they skate
We have often seen some mesmerizing exhibitions at 4CC. For instance, Mirai's "Fireflies" in 2011.
And who can forget Caroline Zhang's 2009 Exhibition "Lullaby for a Stormy Night."
I wonder if we'll see Christian Gao's Gangnam Style. It has the potential to be epic.
A bit surprising that the state of Chinese Pairs has fallen so low...
Many are predicting a Canadian sweep of the pairs events... and that's probably as good a guess as any.
02-08-2013, 01:48 AM
surely an american team or two will make the podium.
Originally Posted by TontoK
02-08-2013, 02:33 AM
the Golden Era
possible Chinese pairs are an all time low, no real contenders for Worlds or Olympics
Originally Posted by Skater Boy
Canada has 2 good pairs but an upset would be MT/M winning over D/R
L/S could sneak though they are unstable but C/S are also inconistent
D/R is a lock for bronze at Worlds as it will be held in Canada known for high inflation
unless P/T and B/L skate clean