Last edited by shine; 02-06-2013 at 03:24 PM.
That said, I expect, Asada, and two of the following: Osmond, Gold or Murakami to be on the podium for the ladies, in some order.
For the men, I wouldn't be surprised if it was an all-Japanese podium.
1. Yuzuru Hanyu JPN
2. Daisuke Takahashi JPN
3. Ross Miner USA
4. Max Aaron USA
5. Takahito Mura JPN
6. Kevin Reynolds CAN
7. Yan Han CHN
8. Nan Song CHN
9. Richard Dornbush USA
10. Denis Ten KAZ
1. Mao Asada JPN
2. Kaetlyn Osmond CAN
3. Akiko Suzuki JPN
4. Gracie Gold USA
5. Kanako Murakami JPN
6. Zijun Li CHN
7. Christina Gao USA
8. Agnes Zawadzki USA
9. Kexin Zhang CHN
10. Amelie Lacoste CAN
1. Meagan Duhamel / Eric Radford CAN
2. Kirsten Moore-Towers / Dylan Moscovitch CAN
3. Marissa Castelli / Simon Shnapir USA
4. Cheng Peng / Hao Zhang CHN
5. Alexa Scimeca / Chris Knierim USA
6. Paige Lawrence / Rudi Swiegers CAN
7. Felicia Zhang / Nathan Bartholomay USA
8. Wenting Wang / Yan Zhang CHN
1. Meryl Davis / Charlie White USA
2. Tessa Virtue / Scott Moir CAN
3. Maia Shibutani / Alex Shibutani USA
4. Madison Chock / Evan Bates USA
5. Piper Gilles / Paul Poirier CAN
6. Nicole Orford / Thomas Williams CAN
7. Cathy Reed / Chris Reed JPN
Meanwhile Kaetlyn has...Flutzed at Skate Canada, Flutzed at Canadian Nats, Flutzed at...one gets the idea that she has a Flutz. NOT putting her down, I really like her, but really annoying that YuNa is called a "Lipper" on these forums from time-to-time in order for fans of other skaters to make excuses for their own.
ladies: Mao, katlyn Osmond, Zijun Li
Men: HAnyu, Dai, Kevin
pairs: D/R, T-M/M, P/Z
Dance: W/D, V/M, Shibs
Last edited by shine; 02-06-2013 at 11:54 PM.
Yu-Na's takeoff edge on her flip is perfect. And she has nothing to do with this year's 4CC.
Anyway I didn't mean to sound as if I am singling you out for making that passing comment - it's just that lately I've also seen a Gracie fan call YuNa a "Lipper" and some Mao fans saying she's developed some kind of "hammertoe", just comments that make me go
And I agree with you, a Flutz isn't a dealbreaker, and the IJS agrees that it shouldn't be. Kaetlyn has plenty of time to work on fixing it, if she chooses, and she has a lot of other strengths that make her a fabulous skater with tons of potential.
I see a lot think the Shibs will rebound and beat Chock and Bates ever interesting. WE'll see they must be hungry.
Does anyone know the status of Pang and Tong - is he trying to save himself to skate at world's and then go for surgery. Sounds crazy. It is too bad Chan was too scared to skate here or is there another reason. I think he knows he is in trouble. He should have worked on another quad and now it is too late. He is now surpassed by takahashhi and Hanyu and Fernadez. He won't even be ont he podium.
It would be interesting to see if Mao succeeds with her 3A(no < or << or any other mistakes). If she does a nice 3A, she'll be a gold medal contender at this year's Worlds
Last edited by vera01; 02-07-2013 at 07:43 AM.
As for the hammer toe. Well, some could call it that, on her flip and lutz. It's slightly there, but not excessive like a Lipinski Lutz or Murakami's toe jumps. It's more reminiscent of Ito's toe jumps.
I do think Yuna Kim's toe loop technique when it's the back jump in her combinations is sort of bad, though. She tends to jump off of two feet and rotate instead of bringing the skating leg back on the jump. Actually, the technique she uses is actually quite astonishing because she makes the jump way harder than it needs to be. Instead of doing 2.5'ish rotations which is normal for a Triple Toe Loop, she does a full 3. But it can cost her URs in places where a proper take-off would have easily gotten the jump around.
I've seen her solo 3Toe and it looked much better. Her Salchow landings scare me a little...
A Flutz should be a major fault, even a slight one. Because a Lutz is significantly more difficult than a flip. That's why the BV of a 3 Loop compared to a 3 Flip is 5.1 vs. 5.2 and then it jumps up to 6.0 for a 3 Lutz. To say a flutz isn't a big deal is to say that it's of comparable difficulty to a Loop or Flip, and therefore should be overlooked at a fairly minor error - which it isn't. Skaters learn Half and Single Lutzes in Learn to Skate and by the time they're elite they should have mastery over basic edges and take-off mechanics. Edge calls on jump take-offs need to be penalized more, and a bonus should be given to skaters who can display all 5 triples in one program. 3/3 Combinations should get a 10% bonus to the base value of the jumps. The distribution bonus for jumps in the last half of the program should be halved as it allows skaters with easier programs or virtually extinct components to game the system by simply backloading their programs (in Ladies this means we often get to see 2 Salchows back there).
Skaters who have edge issues on a jump will usually not have more than one in a program. Gracie Gold has only one Flip in her FS, and Ashley Wagner/Sotnikova only one Lutz, for example.
Last edited by SkateNater; 02-07-2013 at 10:24 AM.