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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    Men

    1 Hanyu
    2 Fernandez
    3 Chan/Takahashi

    Ladies

    1 Yuna
    2 Mao
    3 Osmond

    Ice Dance

    1 Virtue/Moir - Worlds lock
    2 Davis/White
    3 Pechalat/Bourzat

    Pairs

    1 Volosozhar/Trankov
    2 Savchenko/Szolkowy
    3 Dhamel/Radford - Worlds lock
    Is this prediction based on home nation patriotism? Looks like it but what do I know. Not trying to pick a fight but Osmond doesn't have all her jumps, didn't do that well at juniors, is in her first year at seniors. Is really still developing. And Duhamel and Radford have yet to really podium big over the other strong pairs teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skater Boy View Post
    Is this prediction based on home nation patriotism? Looks like it but what do I know. Not trying to pick a fight but Osmond doesn't have all her jumps, didn't do that well at juniors, is in her first year at seniors. Is really still developing. And Duhamel and Radford have yet to really podium big over the other strong pairs teams.
    there will be a Canadian Judge in Pairs so if they skate clean the will get huge inflation, V/M will win especially as nearing the Olympics and on home ice, I don't see any chance of D/W to beat them no matter how they skate close to the Olympics Season, Osmond if she skates clean can score a 70-73 PCS range rivaling Mao and Carolina's, these two aren't really that stable either in big competitions, so if others falter Osmond is assured of bronze or even the silver medal, its not like its unheared of, Gachinski medaled on home ground and first Worlds

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    I don't think judges would give 70~73 for Osmond's PCS. That means she has to receive around 9 for her SS, which won't be happening.

    Osmond isn't good enough to receive 70~73 PCS anyway. 70~73 PCS means Olympic Yuna level, and even if Osmond's PCS is going to be inflated, she'd receive a PCS around 63~66.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vera01 View Post
    I don't think judges would give 70~73 for Osmond's PCS. That means she has to receive around 9 for her SS, which won't be happening.

    Osmond isn't good enough to receive 70~73 PCS anyway. 70~73 PCS means Olympic Yuna level, and even if Osmond's PCS is going to be inflated, she'd receive a PCS around 63~66.
    that was a Grand Prix , even then they were not shy of giving her the big marks
    we are talking about Worlds here on home ice, Osmond's inflated PCS will be somewhere 70-73 range

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    There will be no Canadian judge on the DANCE and LADIES panels.

    DANCE: AZE AUS FIN FRA GER GBR HUN LTU RUS SVK UKR USA UZB

    There are 5 former SSRs on this list, and except for USA and AUS, all the rest are European judges. IMO Bobrova/Soloviev will benefit most from such a panel. No lock for either V/M or D/W, they'll have to skate their best and hope for the best.

    LADIES: BUL DEN EST FIN GEO GER GBR JPN ROU RSA ESP SUI TUR

    All European except for Japan and South Africa. IMO Osmond isn't going to get 70 PCS score from this bunch, but Kostner's prospects seem rosier.

    Sorry, but home ice doesn't guarantee high PCS scores. Asada, Suzuki and Murakami were on home ice at 4CC, and they received in the FS respectively 67.76 (8.43 SS), 64.33 (8.14 SS), and 61.16 (7.68 SS).

    On home ice at SC, Osmond received 59.61 (7.32 SS) in the FS. Nowhere near 70, and that was with a Canadian judge on the panel and a Canadian Technical Assistant on the tech team.

    Kostner, Kim and Asada may approach or exceed the 70 PCS mark in the FS, because these skaters regularly receive 8s in their PCS scores. They are all World Champions, after all, one is an Olympic champion, and one an Olympic silver medalist. Osmond doesn't have the resume or accomplishments to be in the same league as these ladies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    On home ice at SC, Osmond received 59.61 (7.32 SS) in the FS. Nowhere near 70, and that was with a Canadian judge on the panel and a Canadian Technical Assistant on the tech team.
    Osmond obviously didn't do well in FS yet was awarded a 59 PCS higher than Suzuki
    Suzuki isn't the No.1 Japanese either, the venue where its held it will not be shocking if Osmond skates both clean programs
    ( a new SB) will have an almost same PCS with Mao and Carolina, the judges could also give in with the crowd and given

    I would not be surprised if Osmond gets the bronze medal.

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    Still don't get all the hype about Osmond. Used to think she is the kind of person who can outperform her best in competitions, but looks like the more competitions she attends, the more she suffers from nerves, which means she would be lucky to be the top 6.

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    The CROWD doesn't give the marks, the JUDGES do.

    Osmond has never skated both a clean SP and FS in the same international event---in fact she's never skated a clean FS internationally EVER. She seems able to skate clean in both programs only when she's skating against her own countrymen and has no competition (Challenge); she didn't even skate a clean FS at Canadian Nationals. At 4CC, faced with competition from the Japanese and US skaters, she was spooked and skated tentatively without her usual attack; she fell in both programs and her PCS in the FS was 55.44. At Worlds the competition will be even stiffer.

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    sky fly really is sticking out one's neck; I just don't see it though. I have no idea unless sky fly is trying to jinx Osmond. Something seems amiss. So illogical to assume such extraordinnary marks. Might as well predict Ka nd S will win gold which is probably more possible than Osmond medalling.

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    It has been suggested that sky fly is actually an Osmond hater. Could be, and maybe he/she is trying to jinx Osmond by hyping her so hard. BUT too often, ill wishes rebound on the wisher, and that person's favorite may be the one getting jinxed. Skate Gods are vigilant and unforgiving!!!!!

    I have nothing against Osmond, in fact I think she is a promising skater who may achieve great things in the future. But I'm also a realist: she isn't soup just yet.

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    Osmond and her coach have mentioned on numerous occasions that the goal is top 10. All this chat about her medalling and high PCS is not in their plans at all. I think 4CC was a tough competition for her. But I think she will learn from it. For her the biggest accomplishment is controlling the energy she will feel at worlds and putting it out there.

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    My extremely unadventurous predictions:

    Men:
    1) Hanyu
    2) Chan
    3) Fernandez

    Ladies:
    1) Kim
    2) Kostner
    3) Asada

    Pairs:
    1) Volosozhar/Trankov
    2) Savchenko/Szolkowy
    3) Duhamel/Radford

    Ice dance:
    1) Virtue/Moir
    2) Davis/White
    3) Pechalat/Bourzat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skater Boy View Post
    sky fly really is sticking out one's neck; I just don't see it though. I have no idea unless sky fly is trying to jinx Osmond. Something seems amiss. So illogical to assume such extraordinnary marks. Might as well predict Ka nd S will win gold which is probably more possible than Osmond medalling.
    totally incomparable,
    Osmond is just coming into the senior ranks and getting impression from the judges already
    while K/S have passed their prime and have been dumped, K/S will never sit on a World Podium ever again
    their PCS at Euros were even lower than B/H and J/C

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    Judges at 4CC were none too impressed by Kaetlyn Osmond.

    74.49 40.63 33.86 8.50 8.04 8.61 8.50 8.68 0.00 ASADA, SP
    65.65 34.71 30.94 7.82 7.39 7.89 7.75 7.82 0.00 SUZUKI, SP
    64.04 34.77 29.27 7.50 7.07 7.32 7.36 7.32 0.00 MURAKAMI, SP
    57.45 31.44 27.01 6.86 6.57 6.71 6.86 6.75 1.00 OSMOND, SP

    130.96 63.20 67.76 8.43 8.07 8.57 8.57 8.71 0.00 ASADA, FS
    124.43 60.10 64.33 8.14 7.68 8.18 8.07 8.14 0.00 SUZUKI, FS
    116.99 55.83 61.16 7.68 7.36 7.68 7.71 7.79 0.00 MURAKAMI, FS
    113.94 57.06 57.88 7.29 7.07 7.25 7.32 7.25 1.00 GAO, FS
    106.30 50.57 56.73 7.29 7.00 6.96 7.14 7.07 1.00 GOLD, FS
    103.16 48.72 55.44 6.93 6.86 6.82 7.00 7.04 1.00 OSMOND, FS

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Judges at 4CC were none too impressed by Kaetlyn Osmond.
    obviously the judges would favor the Asian and Japanese skaters being held in Japan
    Worlds will be on home ice on Omsond's soil
    I said this at 4CC , Osmond would be disadvantaged but come by Worlds her PCS will skyrocket again

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