chuck, I beg you to cease this argument.
Gao and Gold are AMERICAN skaters and both outscored Osmond at 4CC.
nvm you didn't get it
Originally Posted by chuckm
No, I don't get your premise that a Senior newbie like Osmond is suddenly elevated to the status of a World or Olympic Champion despite never managing to skate a clean FS internationally, just because she is skating at Worlds in Canada.
Yes, 4CC was held in Japan. However, Worlds isn't a competition that judges can give new skaters 70 for their FS PCS just because it's being held in their home country.
For example, Mao, at her senior debut Worlds(which was held in her home country), received 63.49 for her PCS. Osmond isn't much better than 2007 Worlds Mao. I doubt she's going to receive 70.
1. Fernandez (Will perform fine in SP and win the FS)
2. Hanyu (Will win SP, but falter in FS)
3. Chan (Will place well in both SP and FS for bronze)
1. Kim (Might falter a bit in SP but will skate well in FS)
2. Asada (Will botch a few jumps, but will land 3A at least once)
3. Wagner (Will find her consistency again)
Prior to Worlds 2007 (where she won silver), Mao had been the 2004-2005 JGPF Champion, 2005 JW Champion, 2005-2006 GPF Champion, 2006 JW Silver medalist, and 2006-2007 GPF silver medalist. IMO, Osmond isn't in any way better than 2007 Worlds Mao; Kaetlyn isn't going into Worlds 2013 with anywhere near the accomplishments of the 2007 Mao.
Originally Posted by vera01
And Mao in 2007 skated one of her best programs ever, with seven triples (one DG), 3A and 3-3, who says that Osmond will be 100% clean? The only time that she skated her Carmen without major mistakes was at SC Challenge, a national competition!
Originally Posted by chuckm
There have been posts alleging sky_fly20 is an Osmond hater, and may be attempting to jinx Kaetlyn with over-the-top home-ice advantage hype. I have not noticed sky_fly20 attempting to deny these allegations. If Kaetlyn out-scores any of the favorites, it is obvious the ensuing posts will complain heavily of home ice advantage as the main cause (regardless of how badly a favorite may skate, or how good Kaetlyn may have performed). That appears to be how the stage is being set. If the allegations are true, nothing anyone posts here will reverse sky_fly20's intentions. Everyone is attempting to convince someone who does not want to be convinced, and only playing into the game.
If HOME ICE grants such an tremendous advantage, then I guess there will be no complaints when Russia fills the podiums in Sochi.
This is a gut feeling but I do feel sky fly is sort of creating a jinx on Canada for whatever reason. Most people when suggesting home inflation which there may be some or simply the phsiology of the situation - skate better with fans cheering you on with home town advantage. But not to the extent sky fly is suggesting. D and W have dominated V/M all year so far. Enormous inflation - maybe we are playing semantics????
There's a line from Torch Song Trilogy that comes in handy for situations like this (and I'm going to be paraphrasing here--it's been a while since I saw it): I've got enough problems dealing with the "What Nows" to worry about the "What Ifs."
jinxing would mean saying Canada will take all the top podium which won happen anyways
Originally Posted by Skater Boy
to say Jinxing as Chan is home cooked for Worlds which this time also not likely to happen
his pcs cushion has been leveled and of course there is my amazing Hanyu, Fernandez, Takahashi, Amodio, Aaron even Reynolds if he lands his 3 quads can compete with Chan.
I am being realistic can V/M win - yes, Can Osmond podium - yes
My Prediction as always is of course My Prince takes the Gold
1. Chan (Will place well in both SP and FS for bronze)