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Thread: Quintuple toe-loop?

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    I believe Alexei Urmanov was training a 4A back in the day, but training the 4A caused him to break his leg quite badly.

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    Here's Menshov trying 4L... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx3GnlX4TlY

    And Chris Mabee trying it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPJHfw--ZrM

    Both close attempts!

    A quint would be pretty impossible. It's a physics thing. Although who knows... now men can do triple axels out of thin air. And Brandon Mroz's quad lutz was just amazing. Very likely that he'll be the first man to do the hardest jump ever completed.

    There are a lot of men though doing 3As that are landed well above the ice, so a 4A doesn't seem particularly unlikely.

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    I'm not particularly interested in quintuples at the moment. I would rather see the rules changed so that there can be more triple-triple combinations by allowing an extra triple toe and triple loop to be a part of a second or third jump in a combination.

    I would also like a resurgence of artistry. I want to see more elements and techniques from modern, contemporary, and jazz dance be incorporated into skating. The skaters who skate with heart are still rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherryy View Post
    Like blue_idealist said, I remember Reynolds tried a 4 loop at nationals, probably 2012. He attempted 3 different quads then (toeloop, loop and salchow) but I think loop was not completed. Either URed or with a stepout.

    Well, I think it's really unlikely that we will see a quintuple jump. The next big thing in men's skating could be a 3A-4T or even more probable a consistent 4T-3T-3L. The second combination is a huge point gainer. I think Plushy tried it several times. Like others said, 4T-4T is more likely to be done than 5T. But is it really needed? It would require an enormous amount of time to train it and the skater would risk having a serious injury. It just woudn't pay off, better practise SS and PCS in general. This season showed it's better to be a consistent jumper rather than to go for more difficult elements (ladies in general).
    Plush landed 4t-3t-3lo four times so far. And he thinks quintuple is impossible, but 4A is possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherryy View Post
    Like blue_idealist said, I remember Reynolds tried a 4 loop at nationals, probably 2012. He attempted 3 different quads then (toeloop, loop and salchow) but I think loop was not completed. Either URed or with a stepout.

    Well, I think it's really unlikely that we will see a quintuple jump. The next big thing in men's skating could be a 3A-4T or even more probable a consistent 4T-3T-3L. The second combination is a huge point gainer. I think Plushy tried it several times. Like others said, 4T-4T is more likely to be done than 5T. But is it really needed? It would require an enormous amount of time to train it and the skater would risk having a serious injury. It just woudn't pay off, better practise SS and PCS in general. This season showed it's better to be a consistent jumper rather than to go for more difficult elements (ladies in general).
    You make an excellent point: more demanding three-jump combinations could be the next frontier that would be reachable without ending up in broken legs.

    Gee, I wonder whether it's possible to do a four-jump combination....

    A multi-jump combination is, after all, detectable to the naked eye of even a newbie fan, whereas many fans can't tell the difference between a quad jump and a triple. So a triple-triple-triple or a quad-triple-triple would be more impressive right off the bat.

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