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Thread: Will Asada have the 3A for Worlds?

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    Will Asada have the 3A for Worlds?

    Will Mao have the triple axel for World's?

    Will she need it to Win her third World Crown?

    Her Swan Lake FS is probably one of her best, so will she go for quality than quantity.

    your thoughts!!

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    I dont think she will have the triple axel. I hope she has a 3 3. I agree that she will need one to win gold but not to medal . I do get ghe sense that Mao's end goal by reworking her jumps is 2014 olympics. Of course she would like to win her 3 world title, but I think her hope is perfect jumps by Sochi

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    Oh, man, wouldn't that be wonderful.

    I'll never forget her sheer grit in the 2010 Olympics, putting in two triple axels in the long program even knowing how "on" YuNa was. I'd love to see her find that zone again and prove everyone wrong about her current potential.

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    I strongly believe so, the 3A's she showed in practice at japan nationals were absolutely stunning. so if her 3A are looking just as good at 4CC/Worlds practice then I think it's time for her to put them back in her programs. But I don't think she needs it to win Worlds this year, her FS is already packed with content and includes 7 triples.

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    It will be exciting if she does.

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    "The Swan Lake" is already a very difficult program. I think she has to focus on fully rotating all her seven planned triples.

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    A flawless skate is what Mao needs for winning a world title, but I think she will go for a triple axel at least in the free skate, hoping that won't take too much energy out of her for the rest of the program. Probably she is going to test it at 4ccs

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    IMO, no, she won't. I won't say "she did a 3A at practice, she can do it at competition!". Even Gracie and Liza(though they did it year or two ago) can jump 3A at practice, but they're not doing 3A at competitions.

    But even if she does jump 3A, remember how Yuna won the Olympics. Mao did 3A there and Yuna was still 20 points ahead of her. I doubt Mao would win this year's WC gold-she won GPF, but that was a GPF without Carolina or Yuna. I think she can beat Carolina since Carolina doesn't have many triple jumps. But Yuna? Unless she manages to make one or two major mistakes and Mao skates clean, no. Thus she can win the world title with her program without 3A, but only if Yuna makes mistakes.

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    Regardless of its consistency, I suspect she will attempt it. Her chances of getting no UR? Less than 50% I'd say. The 3Axel has eluded her in recent years.

    Where she really needs the 3Axel is in the SP. But that's also where it's riskier to go for it. Many of the top contenders will be doing 3/3's in the SP and she'll be left far behind if she sticks with her current layout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krislite
    Where she really needs the 3Axel is in the SP. But that's also where it's riskier to go for it. Many of the top contenders will be doing 3/3's in the SP and she'll be left far behind if she sticks with her current layout.
    And behind whom? Of course there's Yuna, but besides that... most woman are doing 3T-3T now (Caro, Akiko, Adelina, Kaetlyn,...). That's 8.2 points. Mao's 3F-2Lo gives her 7.1, that's just a difference of 1.1. Except for Caro, Mao equals that out with the PCS already (and for Caro, she makes up some ground again with her better spnis). So the only real threads are those girls going for 3F-3T or 3Lz-3T - and that's so rare today. The only ones I can think of now are Liza and Gracie, and still I'm not too sure they'd beat Mao (non-jump elements + spins).

    The only two skaters that will beat Mao if she's clean are Yuna and Caro. That's not really being buried

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    She tried 3A in Nagoya and downgraded it heavily, two-footed. Exactly the same thing happened in front of my nose at SOI in Tokyo in SP- downgraded and two-footed. But it's not even the main concern. After that failed 3A all her jump passes went wrong. I wrote the details on Show thread. What I am saying is her badly executed 3A can put her off and she will make other mistakes. Considerig that her jumps are not her super best point, for now, maybe she shouldn't try 3A if it's so unsecure. Another thing if she becomes more consistent, but I haven't heard of that, recently.

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    Im not sure... I think we will know at 4ccs, If she tries it at 4ccs she will probably try it at worlds but if not I cant see her trying it. I would like if she did it, those ones she did on practice at the japanese championships were great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krislite View Post
    Regardless of its consistency, I suspect she will attempt it. Her chances of getting no UR? Less than 50% I'd say. The 3Axel has eluded her in recent years.
    I remember that at last year's Worlds she attempted the 3A in both programs, even though she hadn't landed any clean ones in practice - so I suspect that she will attempt it no matter what. I agree that she should probably attempt in in the SP (even though it's riskier) and focus on executing her LP cleanly. It will be clearer where she is now, jump-wise, after 4CC.

    Quote Originally Posted by let`s talk View Post
    After that failed 3A all her jump passes went wrong.
    This is what I'm afraid of every time I hear she's planning the 3A and it makes me worried for her at Worlds this year. :( Maybe the last two Worlds weren't that important, but this year she has to place well in order to set herself up for the next season and the Olympics; she can't really afford another 6th place finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Li'Kitsu View Post
    And behind whom? Of course there's Yuna, but besides that... most woman are doing 3T-3T now (Caro, Akiko, Adelina, Kaetlyn,...). That's 8.2 points. Mao's 3F-2Lo gives her 7.1, that's just a difference of 1.1. Except for Caro, Mao equals that out with the PCS already (and for Caro, she makes up some ground again with her better spnis). So the only real threads are those girls going for 3F-3T or 3Lz-3T - and that's so rare today. The only ones I can think of now are Liza and Gracie, and still I'm not too sure they'd beat Mao (non-jump elements + spins).

    The only two skaters that will beat Mao if she's clean are Yuna and Caro. That's not really being buried
    Liza, Adelina and Kaetlyn (and even Akiko) are potentially within striking distance, I'm afraid. I doubt PCS would be enough to cushion her in the SP. This is their first Senior Worlds so I'm not sure how far up their PCS will go, but generally the younger skaters tend to see a higher PCS increase over their debut season when they're doing well.

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    She probably won't have it ready for worlds but she'll go for it no matter what. Does she need it? No, but I don't think she's doing it because of high BV. Mao is (was) known for her 3 axels and she may feel the pressure from others to do it. I remember japanese media were like crazy when she tried those at some practises. Mao also said once that a triple axel was her mother's favourite jump, it may mean a lot for her.
    A triple axel is definitely not necessary for Mao to win. What she needs is
    1. A 100% clean skate. Well, one flutz is allowed
    2. A mistake from Yuna (sad but true)
    3. Maybe a triple-triple.
    I'd like Mao to concentrate on triple-triples because it would be more reliable and just more secure to perform. Still, a clean program with no 3-3 is better than the one with that combination full of UR's and doubles instead of triples.

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