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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherryy View Post
    How do you know?

    Also, who's the 3rd lady going to worlds?
    Gosviani. With pcs being thrown out as consideration from the federation as criteria to be sent anywhere gosviani will beat leonova because leonova can't do 2a right now or her 3/3 or flip.

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    I thought Leonova was gifted with that silver medal last season and that it should belong to Akiko. As to why Leonova has bottomed out this year, I have no idea. Is she going through something? Maybe she got into her own head and let the fact that Adelina and Liza were full seniors psych her out to the point she forgot how to land a jump.

    IDK though...she just looked sad all season long. I think it may be something else. Either way, she's had a flat out terrible year. The upside is Adelina and Liza are looking much stronger now and hopefully they'll continue to build up to Sochi. If Julia can rest up and get over her injuries (and get a better choreographer) the three of them would make a very impressive triumvirate for Sochi.

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    She never really fell below landing 4 or 5 triples a free skate but leonova has been falling a lot and singling axels. She is not going to be sent to worlds. She was eligible for euros and gosviani wasnt and gosviani was named to the euros team and it didn't matter that she needed and it wasn't guaranteed that she would skate a euros. The skating of leonova would have to be magnificent at the final and like makarova her career is over. The federation has decided to turn the page completely on the past and its all Liza and Adelina and gosviani with no one from the past and that includes the now past her best leonova. She would need to beat gosviani by 10 to 20 points on Tes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    She never really fell below landing 4 or 5 triples a free skate but leonova has been falling a lot and singling axels. She is not going to be sent to worlds. She was eligible for euros and gosviani wasnt and gosviani was named to the euros team and it didn't matter that she needed and it wasn't guaranteed that she would skate a euros. The skating of leonova would have to be magnificent at the final and like makarova her career is over. The federation has decided to turn the page completely on the past and its all Liza and Adelina and gosviani with no one from the past and that includes the now past her best leonova. She would need to beat gosviani by 10 to 20 points on Tes.
    So who is going to worlds? Does Russia have three spots or two? I know Adelina and Liza are going; is there a third person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanatic View Post
    So who is going to worlds? Does Russia have three spots or two? I know Adelina and Liza are going; is there a third person?
    Russia has 3 spots. The third will ikely be Leonova or Giosvanni. The Russian fed has not announced which yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanatic View Post
    I thought Leonova was gifted with that silver medal last season and that it should belong to Akiko. As to why Leonova has bottomed out this year, I have no idea. Is she going through something? Maybe she got into her own head and let the fact that Adelina and Liza were full seniors psych her out to the point she forgot how to land a jump.

    IDK though...she just looked sad all season long. I think it may be something else. Either way, she's had a flat out terrible year. The upside is Adelina and Liza are looking much stronger now and hopefully they'll continue to build up to Sochi. If Julia can rest up and get over her injuries (and get a better choreographer) the three of them would make a very impressive triumvirate for Sochi.

    I think what you wrote can be quite likely. Both Adelina and Liza had a very strong past, winning most of competitions they entered (or they at least medalled) and they beat Leonova at Russian nationals the last few years. So she would have been worried about them becoming seniors. With jumps it is often a matter of confidence; if you are confident, you will land much more than if you doubt yourself. It must be easier to feel confident when you know that you are the best Russian eligible lady and that there is no one else the Federation can send (which was the case with Leonova the last few years). But suddenly youngsters grew up, Adelina and Liza are now eligible and with every year there will be more and more coming through. They all have triple-triple combinations and Leonova knows that they can easily outjump her. They probably wouldn't have immediately as high PCS, but after a few seasons of being consistent it will come. So it must be really hard for her to feel confident. And as a results her jumps are suffering.

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    Not just Liza And Adelina now but also gosviani. Leonova was eligible for euros and gosviani was named so now leonova has to face her again and that's not likely to go well because she is also ahead of her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    Gosviani. With pcs being thrown out as consideration from the federation as criteria to be sent anywhere gosviani will beat leonova because leonova can't do 2a right now or her 3/3 or flip.
    Gosviani is also listed as a substitute for Junior Worlds, although if one of the ladies(Radionova, Lipnitskaia, Pogorilya) has to WD from the competition, I think it would be Gerasimova who would be going to Junior Worlds.

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