I agree that there isn't that much consistency in U.S. disciplines except dance so in this case I would choose the one that has the pcs...but that's just me.
Thanx for videos, I was now able to see the ones I missed.
Han is still young, posture is the first that needs to improve, plus presentation and choreo. 'But his jumps are so huge. And lovely flow.
Oy. US Men are 9th and 10th without Chan, Fernandez, and the rest of the Europeans?? I'll wait until the FS to pass judgment, but this competition does not bode well for Aaron and Miner's quest to get 3 spots for Sochi. Yikes.
[QUOTE Anyway whoever goes Song or Yan I really hope gets into the top 10 and secure two spots.[/QUOTE]
You are thinking exactly what I am thinking:-) but I think Song is more likely to be sent to Worlds. Overall, this competition is far more exciting than I expected.
Kevin Reynolds URd both his quads and his 3a was messy; he got -GOE on all three jumps.
He's had that same SP for about 3 years now. He should be performing it better and better.
Aaron and Minor are not getting that 3rd spot back. I don't see any combination that would get it back right now. They are all to inconsistent.
Can we initiate a Save Takahashi campaign yet? His rock n rock SP had much more interesting moves and always got the crowd going. If he had skated it like at the GPF, he would be contending for the top SP spot in any competition. Besides the combination spin and the footwork sequence, this Moonlight Sonata SP is a dud.
I hope his PCS here makes him rethink using Morosov for choreography. Please go back to Camerlengo and Miyamoto next year!
And sure, the selection process is a rusty conundrum, d***ed if they do and f*ed if they don't.
However, Jammers, you don't seem to be looking at the genesis of the current cycle or transition or what have you re U.S. men and the rest of the World. Quite a lot of factors are involved. Yes, Jeremy hasn't managed to bust all the way through internationally when he's had a few opportunities, but IMHO, the U.S. would not have lost 3 spots had they rewarded Jeremy even with mistakes in 2011 (just as they rewarded Ashley with mistakes this year). Jeremy had done well on the GP circuit in 2010-2011 season, and he was 5th in the World. At least give him the opportunity to redeem himself after Nats, and then if a third spot was still lost that year, it would have been lost with the best team on the field. As consistent as Ross is, by .19 ahead of Jeremy, Ross could have better waited by .19 behind for the following season and still been steady and competitive.
Momentum is irretrievably lost when a country's top skater has stop and start opportunities at Worlds. In what universe did USFS think RyanB was going to be considered a top five threat internationally? And even though Richard and Ross were exceptionally good and clean at 2011 Worlds, they did not have quads and were otherwise completely dissed as newbies. Furthermore, when you leave your best skater home as the USFS did in 2011, you are telling the rest of the World that you don't trust that skater which lowers the skater's confidence, and lowers the respect in which he is regarded by ISU judges.
The following season Jeremy built back up a modicum of respect at least PCS-wise, but still time, momentum and confidence had been lost. Now Jeremy's struggling with physical problems which made it difficult for him to train the quad this season. And the quad has become even more important. Jeremy still might have been sent to Worlds this year (as his artistry is more respected than in 2011), but sure he alone killed his chances by doubling several triples, and so it is completely understandable why he's not currently on the team. Unfortunately, without a steady heavyweight go-to-guy leading this transitional phase, the confidence of the entire U.S. men's field is kind of shaky, and they are not really looked upon with a great deal of respect -- they are often dissed by fans and by ISU judges -- they have NO margin for error, whilst some of the top established guys always do!
Actually, Max and Ross did not have totally bad skates. So yes, it's quite possible for them to do better and pull up a bit, depending upon how well those now ahead of them perform. The thing is to always get out there and lay down clean programs until you've gained a good reputation, and the judges feel they can trust you.
Last edited by Art&Sport; 02-08-2013 at 04:15 PM.
Certainly Hanyu was the class of the field, even with the mistake! (I say this as an enormous Daisuke girl. Not sure why he felt the need to change his SP; his last one was fine, and this one is nice, but not significantly better?).
How Dai could get 8+ for PE/EX is beyond me. I know this is done all the time for the top tier skaters, but it makes no sense at all imo.
Kind of interesting that Hanyu's greatest inspiration in the sport is Johnny Weir, and Han Yan's is Patrick Chan. Will the biggest star of the next generation be you, Han, or Hanyu? Probably both. But why must they be so heavily rewarded now when they still are yet lacking in artistic maturity? Certainly Max Aaron can't get away with lacking artistic maturity even though he too has fantastic jumping ability.
Oh well, I'll lead the cheering section for U.S. guys since they get scant most of the time: Go Ross, Go Richard, Go Max -- forget about the pressure and lay it down! Hit it out of the arena!
As far as I know Hanyu used to look upon Weir + Plushenko, a great combo of insiration in my opinion.