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    Quote Originally Posted by karne View Post
    Is this gonna be in HD? Cause if it is, I can see me blowing next month's bandwidth before it's even started.
    Why do you bother with limited bandwidth?

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    Winnie_20, Welcome to Golden Skate! Post long and often

    And that is a good question. It might have something to do that Eurosport in different countries carry different things, but all use the same search database?

    The assumption would be that my process as a TV watcher would be:
    1. When is that figure skating on?
    2. The search function says Wedsnesday at 5 pm.
    3. Check my local Eurosport listings. Snooker.
    4. Rats. Snookered again
    5. Check Russian Eurosport for Wednesday AHH! There it is. Now how do I get it..

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    I guess I have become a bit annoyed with their idea of TV listings. ;-) Over here (Holland), it seems ESP2 like to air a lot of German soccer when there is figure skating on the schedule. Yuck.

    Thanks for the welcome! I have been lurking for a while. Have slowly but surely become hooked on watching live figure skating these past six or so years, and this weekend I finally went to see a competition live. (The Challenge Cup. Wanted to go the NRW Trophy in Dortmund to see Yuna Kim, but alas, couldn't get a ticket).

    It taught me a lot, not least of which that it's very cold when you sit so close to the skating rink, and I have the deepest respect for the judges etc.. So, so cold, phew! And I had no idea how fast those skaters really go across the ice, wow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
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    It's transportable.

    Also, hip pocket.

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    Excited there are streams this year, however, the men's and pair's fields are a bit of a letdown from the very exciting ones they had the potential to be. The podiums in these two disciplines have the potential to be very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Winnie_20, Welcome to Golden Skate! Post long and often

    And that is a good question. It might have something to do that Eurosport in different countries carry different things, but all use the same search database?

    The assumption would be that my process as a TV watcher would be:
    1. When is that figure skating on?
    2. The search function says Wedsnesday at 5 pm.
    3. Check my local Eurosport listings. Snooker.
    4. Rats. Snookered again
    5. Check Russian Eurosport for Wednesday AHH! There it is. Now how do I get it..
    Each Eurosport website has a different search database. This can be seen by searching for "skating" on British Eurosport's website, and comparing their results to the results for the same search on any other Eurosport website:

    British will have a couple of skating programmes on Eurosport 1. All the other Eurosport variations will only have skating programmes on Eurosport 2.

    I had to go through 4 different websites to construct the list that I posted yesterday:

    http://tv.eurosport.com/ (for International's schedule)
    http://tv.eurosport.de/ (for Deutschland's schedule)
    http://tv.eurosport.fr/ (for France's schedule)
    http://tv.eurosport.co.uk/ (for British's schedule)

    In each case, I used the search facility to get the start times, and then went through each day to get the finish times, and check had anything been missed out. It was very time consuming, and I know fine well that what is actually broadcast will be totally different to what is on my list. But, it is better to have a rough guide to when something might be on than just going in completely blind.

    Before the Europeans, I did look up Eurosport Russia's schedule ( http://tv.eurosport.ru/ ). But, when I saw it was in Cyrillic, I thought "Ah, this is going to be too complicated to find the skating. I'll just stick with doing 4 schedules."

    Usually, International, Deutschland and France have the same schedule. I've never watched ESP France, so I don't know how much they derivate from the published schedule.

    On the other hand, I have watched ESP Deutschland quite a lot over the years, as ESP1 Deutschland is Free-To-Air on satellite. ESP Deutschland quite frequently gives priority to LIVE Handball (what?!) matches (as opposed to the highlights being shown on International) over what is being shown on the International schedule. And, as Winnie_20 says, live Bundesliga matches.

    British is usually totally different to International. And I hate that!

    When Setanta GB closed down a few years back, British Eurosport bought the British rights to a lot of sports they showed. It was mostly stuff that Eurosport never showed before, like cricket. However, Eurosport does not have the pan-European rights to these sports. So, British gives them priority over whatever is being shown on International.

    The result is us British Eurosport viewers are missing out on a lot of stuff that is being shown on Eurosport International. Take ski jumping: British Eurosport has NEVER shown the Men's Summer Grand Prix series or the Ladies World Cup competitions live. We have got highlights of a few of the competitions, but not many.

    And, for the figure skating, we usually get a lot less coverage than our counterparts on the continent get.

    I don't know if there is a particular reason why, but on British Eurosport this winter, biathlon and the bobsleigh-type sports (luge, skeleton, etc.) have been getting priority over other wintersports that are being shown on International.

    Also, whenever there has been snooker on this season, whereas other versions of Eurosport have left it to go to other sports (eg. ski jumping), British Eurosport has tended to stay with the snooker. As I snooker fan in the UK, I'm not complaining as I can watch the other sport on the computer and record the snooker on the TV. But, it must be very annoying for those continental snooker fans who do not have access to British Eurosport on the computer.

    One thing that really winds me up is when you are watching something on, say, ESP2 and then the commentator suddenly announces that it is about to switch to ESP1! Or vice-versa. If you are recording it to watch later, it means that you miss the end of it. That has happened to me plenty of times with the snooker.

    I have long believed that to get rid of all this variation and confusion, Eurosport needs to become a 3-channel network:-

    Eurosport International 1: a multi-soundtrack, single-video, Free-to-air channel showing sports ESP has pan-European rights to. (Teleshopping when off-air overnight). Can be viewed continent-wide.

    Eurosport International 2: a multi-soundtrack, single-video, Free-to-air channel showing sports ESP has pan-European rights to. (Teleshopping when off-air overnight). Can be viewed continent-wide.

    Eurosport National (known as ESP France, ESP Deutschland, British ESP, etc. in respective countries): a collection of single-soundtrack, single-video, subscription channels showing sports ESP only has national rights to (eg. MotoGP in UK and Fr; cricket in UK; Bundesliga in De; rugby in Fr). (Eurosport News when off-air overnight). Each channel can only be viewed in its designated country.

    Also, if there is an extra channel, there will be less need for the powers-that-be to switch a programme from one channel to another!

    CaroLiza_fan

    PS. You can usually get Eurosport Russia on http://livetv.ru/en

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    The assumption would be that my process as a TV watcher would be:
    1. When is that figure skating on?
    2. The search function says Wedsnesday at 5 pm.
    3. Check my local Eurosport listings. Snooker.
    4. Rats. Snookered again
    5. Check Russian Eurosport for Wednesday AHH! There it is. Now how do I get it..
    Ah! I just worked out what went wrong for you!

    I was looking at the on-screen listings for tomorrow on the TV there now, and saw that the figure skating was on at 4pm, and the snooker was on at 5pm.

    Then it suddenly dawned on me.

    When you were using the search facility, were you by any chance on Eurosport International's website ( http://tv.eurosport.com/ )? Because, on Eurosport.com, the schedule is in Central European Time. (This is because Eurosport is based in Paris, and France uses CET).

    Then, when you went to the local listings, it probably gave the schedule in Greenwich Mean Time, as that is the international standard.

    And, since CET is 1 hour ahead of GMT, that would explain why the snooker was on at 5pm on one set of listings, and the skating was on at 5pm on the other.

    Incidentally, the times on British Eurosport's website ( http://tv.eurosport.co.uk/ ) are given in GMT.

    Any time I have copied Eurosport schedules onto here, I have kept the listings in the time zones for their respective countries, so as not to cause confusion to any forum members in those coutries. So, the times for International, Deutschland and France are all in CET, but the listings for British are in GMT.

    So, just to clarify the times for tomorrow's broadcasts, here is a cut-down version of my schedule message:

    Quote Originally Posted by CaroLiza_fan View Post
    Eurosport International (All times CET)

    Wednesday 27th February 2013
    ESP2 17:00 – 18:00 Short Dance
    ESP2 20:00 – 22:45 Pairs Short Programme LIVE


    Eurosport Deutschland – Same as Eurosport International


    Eurosport France (All times CET)

    Wednesday 27th February 2013
    ESP2 17:00 – 18:00 Short Dance
    ESP2 20:00 – 22:45 Pairs Short Programme LIVE


    British Eurosport (All times GMT)

    Wednesday 27th February 2013
    BES2 16:00 – 17:00 Short Dance
    BES2 19:00 – 21:45 Short Pairs LIVE
    BES2 21:45 – 22:45 Short Dance
    So, there is no need for English-speakers to switch to the Russian Eurosport.

    But, if you do want the Eurosport broadcast in Russian, click the link I gave at the end of my last message, then click on Broadcasts at the top of the page. A page listing different sports will appear. Click on Winter Sports, and then click on the figure skating broadcast you want. And, hopefully, there will be at least one link to a stream (there isn't always!)

    Hope this helps

    CaroLiza_fan

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    If I can get a British Eurosport stream, I always prefer that but I have great fear of soccer or snooker running over into, since well am I aware that skating will get short shrift.

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    So they're only going to show last part of the SD, which means, they're showing group 5&6&7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaroLiza_fan View Post
    So, there is no need for English-speakers to switch to the Russian Eurosport.
    Russian Eurosport is what is available on TVTeka. So we have no choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    If I can get a British Eurosport stream, I always prefer that but I have great fear of soccer or snooker running over into, since well am I aware that skating will get short shrift.
    Having been watching the snooker so far this week, I don't think you'll have much to worry about. None of the matches (even the long ones) have run past 4pm GMT, which is when Eurosport are planning on showing the SD highlights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    Russian Eurosport is what is available on TVTeka. So we have no choice.
    Ah, that's unfortunate. There are always other livestreaming websites, which have Eurosport with the English soundtrack. But, whether they are viewable in Russia is another matter!

    On the subject of Russian channels, I was wondering, are any of the other Russian channels showing the Junior Worlds live? For example, Спорт-2 or Россия-2, which normally show the senior events. I've just looked up some of the links that have been put up for these channels in the past, and they're not showing the SD live yet anyway.

    For that matter, does anybody know if RAI is showing the Junior Worlds live in Italy? (Or, to put it another way, are LaRiserva going to be able to put videos up on YouTube of the performances that Eurosport aren't showing! )

    CaroLiza_fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaroLiza_fan View Post
    Ah, that's unfortunate. There are always other livestreaming websites, which have Eurosport with the English soundtrack. But, whether they are viewable in Russia is another matter!
    Free streaming websites are usually available everywhere. But no point looking for unreliable, low quality streams when you can have a high quality stream with the ability to watch on-demand later from TVTeka.

    And I'd much rather not hear Simon's incredibly stupid ramblings, which make me wanna throw my laptop out of the window.
    Last edited by Ziggy; 02-27-2013 at 07:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    Free streaming websites are usually available everywhere. But no point looking for unreliable, low quality streams when you can have a high quality stream with the ability to watch on-demand later from TVTeka.
    Ooohhh!!! High Quality AND On-Demand?! That sounds brilliant!!!

    I take it for service like that you have to pay, though.

    Although the free streams are handy for when British Eurosport are not showing the same as Eurosport International, in an ideal world, I would still prefer to watch on an actual TV. But, I've already explained why earlier in this thread!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    And I'd much rather not hear Simon's incredibly stupid ramblings, which make me wanna throw my laptop out of the window.
    Yeah, I know what you mean about the ramblings (not just from Simon, but Chris and Nicky as well)! But, I wouldn't go as far as wanting to throw the TV out the window!

    But, if I am not able to watch full coverage of the skating anywhere, I would still prefer to listen to somebody speaking my own language, rather than listen to Russians/Italians that don't know that they are supposed to stop talking when the music starts!!! (That REALLY winds me up!!! )

    That was why I was so happy during the Europeans when some videos appeared on YouTube with no commentary whatsoever! But, even they weren't perfect (eg. no noise from the audience in the first couple).

    At the end of the day, you just gotta make do with what you can get.

    CaroLiza_fan
    Last edited by CaroLiza_fan; 02-27-2013 at 09:08 AM.

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    Russian Eurosport-2:
    http://tvsport24.info/tv_social_online.php?channel=215

    Today's schedule (Moscow time): 20:00-21:00 SD
    22:00-23:45 Pairs SP LIVE

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    Anybody has any decent British Eurosport links in case their coverage is better than Eurosport Russian and International (like during 4CCs)?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaroLiza_fan View Post
    But, if I am not able to watch full coverage of the skating anywhere, I would still prefer to listen to somebody speaking my own language, rather than listen to Russians/Italians that don't know that they are supposed to stop talking when the music starts!!! (That REALLY winds me up!!! )
    Russian Eurosport commentators don't usually talk at all during the programs.

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