Congratulations to the medalists!
Zijun was the highlight for me. Lovely program and music. Look forward to seeing how she grows.
I feel really sorry for Gracie. I wish all the pressure and expectations for her to be a champion NOW would back off so she can be allowed to simply settle into being a senior for the moment.
And your claim is based on one single sample point. How intelligent.Originally Posted by sky_fly20
Seeing Osmond not being scored very highly I was thinking people would finally lay off of her but I guess that was too much to ask for. She hasn't competed on the senior international level long enough to have an established pattern of how the judges will mark her. There is no need to panic that she will be handed all sorts of freebies at Worlds. I'm sure Skate Canada is putting loads of pressure on her and I really hope her team does the best they can to protect her from that. Let her be a contender for 2018 and in the meantime just make a name for herself.
I agree. This girl hasn't been allowed to just settle into being a Senior skater. Instead all this hype about her being the savior of US Ladies skating has just been ridiculous. Maybe people will now back off and leave her alone and let her grow as a skater at her own pace now.
I was asking if she is still injured?
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To join the Gao, Gold debate:
I think Gold has better quality overall, but she needs more experience and time to grow. She has beautiful lines and great jumping techniques; she will also unlikely gain lots of weight like Mirai. But when we put great hopes on her, don't forget she just debuted her senior national this year.
The thing I dislike Gao most is her posture, though it has been better. Maybe she is too thin, her head-neck-back line always distracts me from her skating. By the way, someone pointed out her SP this season is almost identical to Karen Kwan's 1996 program http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ0xJoshfkw. Anyone knows the reason?
My gold medalist is Akiko Suzuki.
ITA. Congrats to all the medalists, plus Christina and Zijun for a fine skate (luv them bothBut, whatever the naysayers still need to complain about, Mao is a real champion!
The development from the beginning of the season until now is just incredible. Even if she didn't fully rotate all of those triples by now, this was her first attempt at a 8-triple program, and for that she did really well. Both calls on the 3A and 2A-3T were quite strict (though justifiable), maybe another caller would have given credit to those jumps. If she continues on like she did this season, and keeps getting better, she might really manage a 8-triple program in Sochi!
You can never count out Mao, never ever. Since 2010, she has reworked her jumping technique, and additionally even made progress in other areas too. And despite my initial reaction, I even like her new dress.
Very happy for Akiko and Kanako. Both had amazing skates. There was so much beauty in the ladies competition. Worlds will be so exciting!
Chrisitina did really well too. Hopefully, she will continue like that next season and will show the USFSA who's boss).
I'm not going to praise Mao even though I most definitely would like to, cause I'm sick of some people labelling me here as a Maobot. But I will say one thing; even with the URs and the edge call, Mao's performances in this competition moved alot of people and I think that means something.
If figure skating performances do not touch our hearts, what's the point in watching this sport anyway? Yes, fully rotated jumps with proper edges should be rewarded more than those which aren't since this is a sport. But otoh, figure skating is also a performance. It's a sport in which the audience also plays an important role. That's precisely why there are PCS; scores which I believe can only be subjective even with guidelines. As they are human, the judges will hand out PCS based on their impressions on a performance, just like the audience will evaluate a performance based on how it made them feel.
IMHO, I am sick of some 'fans' debating whether a jump was fully or under rotated. It's close to impossible to make that out when you're in the audience watching the skaters live. The audience can be moved or be amazed by what the skaters do, even if there's a slight UR here and there. Falls, step outs or other visible mistakes will distract appreciation and can ruin a performance more or less, cause those kinds of mistakes distracts them from the performance, making the audience feel down and sorry for the skaters. In other words, they're pulled back into reality from the beautiful world the skaters are trying so hard to create on the ice. But if not DGs, some slight UR or an edge call will not distract them at all. I've had my share of seeing competitions and ice shows live even in the best arena seats, so I know this as a fact.
Some of you seem to enjoy watching slo-mo vids over and over to accuse skaters of URs and wrong edges. I find that quite meaningless to be honest. We're not judges, we're not tech callers, we're not even critics so what's the point? It makes me wonder if those who do so really love this sport or care about the skaters. I think we should try to accept the skaters based on how their performances touched our hearts a bit more. Many of the girls touched my heart in various ways in this competition, I'm simply grateful to them. I'm sure they're all aware of their weak points much more than we do, and are trying to overcome them to become a better skaters. So what's the point in critisizing them so harshly?
I'm not against debating or discussing how you all feel about about the skaters and their performances. It's fun and that's what fans do. But concluding what some skaters cannot do in the future, pointing out how bad they are at what they do, and trying so hard to convince others to think in the same way seems nothing more than ego based childish talk to me. I'm not saying all of you here are like that. But some of you certainly are. I truely hope the skaters do not bother to access this forum and read such posts.
I have many of the same feelings, Laughing Man. Not that I want to say anything against mathematics, but I don't watch skating to contemplate decimals. If I want to do that, I can practice doing column addition. When I watch skaters, I want to see skating. That includes both the technical and the performance aspects. Skating to me is process of two-way communication between the skater(s) and the audience. It's done to music. If we're only to watch the rotations, don't bamboozle me with music.
They both fell here yet Gao still beats Gold... Gold fell at nats yet beat Gao by a long shot. You know good and well what the point is. Gold-flation is alive and well in the U.S.
Gracie may have only fell once but almost all her jumps were not clean so she got marked down bigtime that's why she lost to Gao. At Nationals she was totally clean in her LP. There is no big conspiracy here.
So you are assuming that the judging panel will be made up of all canadian judges? Very silly to make the claims you are making. It will be an international panel....I am sure that 2 falls will not get a top five placement.
Im late but wow, Congrats to Mao, she's back !
Im shocked Osmond didnt get overscored, but then again this wasnt held in Canada
but I am almost certain even with 2 falls, Osmond will be in Top 5 at Worlds as it i will be held on home ground and the inflation will be back
sad for Gracie
I think this is the best post in the entire thread!
Thanks for posting thisI've been looking forward to seeing Li's program.
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