02-10-2013, 12:10 PM
LOL! The armchair "experts" have their knives out & sharpened before they even know what caused V/M to stop in their program. The last thing elite ice dancers want is to stop the flow of their program & it would be something extreme for V/M to do so. My parents, both of whom are figure skating coaches & judges, say the program interruption was handled completely correctly & adhered to the ISU Rules. Even with the interruption, V/m's program IMO was by far the most dynamic & exciting of the competition: their expression of modern dance just amazing, their connection, body lines, unison and edges surpass everyone.
02-10-2013, 12:11 PM
I recall and interview or commentator blurb from a year or so ago. Even then, Marina had selected the FD music for all her teams.
Originally Posted by icefan1005
At the time, I speculated that D/W would have something very ballroom, but after reviewing the Finnstep I've had to revise. Marina won't put out two look-alike programs for her teams.
02-10-2013, 12:12 PM
nope you're think of COR from this season...(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lci9qn6tJs)
Originally Posted by rvi5
i was referring to this skate, where you could CLEARLY tell Alex was struggling in the second half/sounding like he was coughing up a lung afterwards...(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEbslHn0-js)
02-10-2013, 12:13 PM
V and M, I feel for them but D and W have a plan, they know who they ae and they stay in that realm. there is no advantage for V and M really to push their envelope. They are trying something different with Carmen. It is like Pink Floyd. Part of me wants Davis and White to win Oly gold because they were second the last time and the other wants V and M. Justice is all in one's mind. Some could say yes D and W are great give them gold. But as we know life isn't always fair. And in some cases karma and in others bad luck and well it all depends on your view or bias or perspective or... I always felt sorry Brian Orser didn't win gold and same with Kwan, Browning and heck Liz Manley. Usova and Zhulin different rules may have allowed them to win, different skating orders (rules because they changed over the years and would have undoubtedly affected the results). I always thought but is is just my opinon Usova and Zhulin deserved an Oly gold and krylova and oksianikov but life isn't fair.. I do feel that V and m have to regain their skating skills they are getting killed by D and W - you would think they would fight harder. Ditto for Shibs - nice team but they really have to fight to regain no. 2 in the US from world bronze to national bronze is not great.
02-10-2013, 12:14 PM
Congrats to Meryl and Charlie
Chock/Bates solidified as U.S. No. 2
by next Season 3rd place will be between Hubell/Donohue and Aldrige/Eaton
the Shibutanis will probably be 5th in US ranking by next Season. I think its time for them to separate and try luck with another partner
02-10-2013, 12:16 PM
2013 4cc Free Dance
Maybe they needed the judges feedback on some of the changes they had made to the program. 4CC would be their last chance before Worlds.
Originally Posted by figureskater1995
02-10-2013, 12:17 PM
Skater Boy, I have to agree with your assessment of the Shibs. I'm not sure what is going on there. Perhaps growth and development is just taking a while.
Their first year out, I loved their SD, really liked their FD, and was thrilled to see them on the podium at Worlds. Since then, they've just left me kind of feeling flat when I watch them, and I don't have the first idea why.
02-10-2013, 12:19 PM
i agree that we all have our preferences, and clearly D/W and V/M are very different in style so it's difficult to compare them head to head. but i just don't think V/M and Marina went in the right direction with the Carmen program. like every time i watch it i'm impressed, but it seems empty probably b/c Carmen is just one of those musical selection you should avoid regardless of how great you are b/c it's just overused and we've already seen every interpretation of it...it just seems like there hasn't been development/improvement even with the changes.
Originally Posted by icefan1005
02-10-2013, 12:23 PM
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