I don't want them to get an accident but I don't want them to win silver either. The penalty they got was disproportionate to what they did. They stopped for two minutes to catch a breath! They shouldn't get rewarded silver for that. They should be penalized more so that they don't end up second.
Can D/W fans get any more pathetic? Bashing V/M before knowing what's going on. It's brave of V/M to continue the program, and I'm sure they did it for the audience. They knew they wouldn't win when they stopped. Do you really think they cared for the silver medal enough to risk their health? Show some humanity and respect!
I wondered that too, if their lift should count. I do think G/P are overscored also.Originally Posted by Ziggy
The rules clearly state that if you interrupt a program, you start from where you stopped.
Virtue/Moir stopped after a failed lift attempt.
Hence, they should not have been allowed to repeat the lift. The rules are totally unambiguous on that and I really cannot believe that the referee has allowed this to happen.
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I agree.
I totally agree. That's why this sport is getting less and less popular. It's a big joke with the judging. One couple lays an egg on the ice after a failed lift attempt where he was too tired to lift her and gets to start again with no penalty whatsoever. Other couple gets their scores totally inflated with a B level program. Looks like the judges at this event must have been on Skate Canada payroll.The rules clearly state that if you interrupt a program, you start from where you stopped.
Virtue/Moir stopped after a failed lift attempt.
Hence, they should not have been allowed to repeat the lift. The rules are totally unambiguous on that and I really cannot believe that the referee has allowed this to happen.
Other than that, judging has made me furious as usual. I feel like I was watching a totally different competition.
I can't understand at all how Shibutanis could have clearly beaten Chock/Bates who had more flow, more expression and a more complex program with quite a lot of choreographic detail. I also can't understand how Gilles/Poirier whose elements weren't very strong and who still look like he's dragging her across the ice could have placed 3rd in the FD. They didn't do too badly but their performance was nowhere near the level of both of the American teams.
This. x a gazillion. I've been a big fan of the Chock/Bates FS since it was first skated this season, and I just don't see how Poirier manages to pull off these huge scores for something I see as a good but middling program. C/B lack the polish that Samuelson and Bates had, but I do think that is simply a matter of time: they've only been together for a relatively short time. I think they'll really come into their own during the next quad.The rules clearly state that if you interrupt a program, you start from where you stopped.
Virtue/Moir stopped after a failed lift attempt.
Hence, they should not have been allowed to repeat the lift. The rules are totally unambiguous on that and I really cannot believe that the referee has allowed this to happen.
Other than that, judging has made me furious as usual. I feel like I was watching a totally different competition.
I can't understand at all how Shibutanis could have clearly beaten Chock/Bates who had more flow, more expression and a more complex program with quite a lot of choreographic detail. I also can't understand how Gilles/Poirier whose elements weren't very strong and who still look like he's dragging her across the ice could have placed 3rd in the FD. They didn't do too badly but their performance was nowhere near the level of both of the American teams.
We don't really know what happened. It seemed like they were talking before going into the lift.
You're saying as if there was nothing wrong with Tessa, they just decided to take a nice little break because they were "so tired".
Weren't the Shibs allowed to restart at COR though? Like what happened here...
erm... i didn't get the impression that scott was the one who couldn't continue... it is pretty evident that tessa said something to him during the beginning of the entrance embrace that caused the stoppage.
the situation reminded me a lot of the shibutanis at COR
Hey I resent your broad statement please remember some of us D/W fans are V/M fans too.
Congrats to D/W for a truly amazing skate! Congrats to Tessa and Scott for winning the Silver
and to Chock/Bates for winning the Bronze!
All of the skaters in the final group were just fabulous! I really enjoyed this competition.
Yes, they did.
Yes but they were severely penalized. thats why I mentioned in another post that the Shibs should have pulled a "Tessa 4Continents 2011" instead of allowing themselves to be beaten by that Junior team. That loss is really what tarnished them for the rest of the season
Chock/Bates looked pretty terrible last season and I am quite astounded with how much they have improved. Both of their programs actually looked very polished to me. Elegant, flowed well, presented with a lot of attack and expression.
Gilles/Poirier are definitely promising. She's got lovely lines, they have good chemistry and present their programs quite well but there's a lot of work to be done on her basic skating and the elements are not there yet. They aren't bad but there's a lot of work ahead of them and I don't understand why they are being scored so highly already. I think they might be politicked heavily.
Also agree. I think its a skaters worst nightmare to have to stop their program because to illness, accident etc Iam sure it means so much to them to be able to skate their program in its entirety. They have the most difficult complex program and this adds to the risk.
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