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    Davis & White to regain World title?

    It looks pretty clear to me Davis & White will regain their World title and set themselves up as the likely gold medalists at the Sochi Olympics.

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    Not sure about that. D/W and V/M seem to alternate being on top every other year so who knows what will happen next season.

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    There is no Guarantee that D&W will regain their world title.

    V&M were third the year before Olys.
    Ice is slippery
    VM have a very challenging program.

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    V&M are a great team but I really think D&W are finally pulling ahead in the rivalry. They have beaten V&M in PCS in every head to head program this year, including the one they lost. I would be surprised if they dont win Worlds this year. I didnt guarantee them winning the Olympics next year, just that if they win Worlds (which I think they will) and conclude a season of 3 straight wins over V&M, they will enter the Olympic season as the favorites.

    As for ice being slippery, the one event it is not slippery is ice dancing. How often do you see a fall or major mistake, 3% of the programs maybe. It comes down to who is dancing the strongest, who has the best programs, and which program and team the judges like more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    It looks pretty clear to me Davis & White will regain their World title and set themselves up as the likely gold medalists at the Sochi Olympics.
    Agreed.

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    It would certainly make for an even more Uber! Dramatic! Olympic Year! if D/W do. To quote Willy Wonka (from the wonderful version with Gene Wilder), "The suspense is terrible... I hope it'll last."

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    One thing is for sure Charlie and Meryl have Sochi in their sights and are putting the medal to the metal. I love how they never rest on there laurels.

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    why is it that when a team wins, fans act like they will now always win and when they lose, fans act like they will always lose. i remember last year, v/m win and there was a thread just like this, saying that d/w are hasbeens as v/m have pulled ahead. get a grip people.
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    I think after Vancouver, Meryl and Charlie sat down and made a plan for Sochi. 4 years ago, they were where many of us thought was the top of ice dance at least from a packing a program with difficulty standpoint...there was a moment where I think we thought "so now what? where do they go from here? how do they raise the bar?" And they've gone on a step by step process season by season to improve little things. They've always been good storytellers on ice with their athleticism/speed and intensity, but they have really pushed themselves. First there was upping the technique and technical skill in their tango, then there was interpreting a program to be a full performance from start to finish that transports the audience to a specific time and place with Die Fleidermaus, and this year they've focussed on the nuance of emotion and using choreography to their advantage. When you put this all together, you can see all the things that they have worked on seemed a little risky/pushed their boundaries, but every year they've delivered, and it's really benefitting them. They've been so consistent, that it's amazing that every skate they do it has been an improvement...and with Sochi a year away, I think it's safe to say, that V/M and D/W rivalry is as strong as ever. V/M have the advantage in some regards (having won in Vancouver, having the better "look" on ice, being better performers, also being the more naturally gifted partnership), but D/W have pretty much done everything they can to make sure that the gap (that 0.04 pt gap from 09 Worlds) really doesn't exist anymore. I adore Tessa and Scott, but the skating they've been putting out on the ice doesn't show that they want it as much as Meryl and CHarlie. I still love watching them, but i just dont' think they have the advantage anymore. D/W have been winning the PCS battle all season, and I think they've been more successful with the SD since it was introduced than V/M so I can't wait!!!

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    Reynolds just won the Men's title, ice is slippery, don't get all clairvoyant on us, some of us want to be somewhat surprised

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    So much of ice dance results depend on picking good music and having a good program to it. I wouldn't make any predictions till after the GPF next year (I expect both teams to avoid 4CC's 2014).

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    I do think D and W will world and oly gold. The momentum is with them; it appears with pcs that is key the judges like them. However, V and M could regroup. I don't think D and W will take any huge risks but wheras V and M have; I hope Both teams put out their best. VandM are prone to injuries and errors so they need to really want it. Losing might be good; rework their technique and stroking and lifts. Get a real jammed pack program; stay right behind D and W like in a race and then shock them at Oly.s that's the strategy. i give V and M credit for trying different stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    As for ice being slippery, the one event it is not slippery is ice dancing. How often do you see a fall or major mistake, 3% of the programs maybe. It comes down to who is dancing the strongest, who has the best programs, and which program and team the judges like more.
    One team does not have to make a major mistake for the other team to win.
    With Virtue/Moir and Davis/White so closely matched, minor mistakes from either team can determine their placements.

    The gap in their Four Continents SD scores was not even half a point.
    http://www.isuresults.com/results/fc2013/SEG007.HTM

    Ice is slippery.

    Question for mods:
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    "Davis & White to regain World title" is the OP's opinion, not a fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leil View Post
    why is it that when a team wins, fans act like they will now always win and when they lose, fans act like they will always lose. i remember last year, v/m win and there was a thread just like this, saying that d/w are hasbeens as v/m have pulled again. get a grip people.
    I always think of the saying "One swallow does not make a summer." When it comes down to D/W and V/M, one can't make a prediction from one day to the next because both are just about neck and neck. Some of you may prefer the style of one or the other, or some of you may be able to detect that one of the teams has strengths in certain aspects of skating in which the other team is marginally less strong (I would never say "weaker" in the case of either of these splendid teams), but there's nothing to choose between them in terms of sheer excellence.

    I happen to love both of them, and I feel just incredibly lucky to have such skating riches laid out before me for not one but two Olympic cycles, so maybe I'm not the one to ask. (Besides, I'm no technical whiz when it comes to analyzing each step and element.) One reason I'm rooting for D/W this time around is simple symmetry: I want both of them to have the satisfaction of an OGM. Also, I lost my heart to D/W because of Die Fledermaus. But if V/M win at Sochi, I'll be thrilled for them as well, because they're also astounding. I wish they could just tie every time they skate. (I feel just about the same for YuNa and Mao. I'm probably no use at all as a fan.)

    This was a bad week for V/M and not for D/W. It was a bad week for Daisuke. It was a banner week for Mao. Next month may be different. But make no mistake, all of the skaters I've cited here are gems of the first water, wherever they end up at any competition. We are so lucky right now just to get to see skating like this.

    My only wish for them all is that they stay completely, totally healthy, every last molecule of them, so we can see them all at their very best in every competition from now on. Yes, I'm greedy.

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    it's like technically you guys admit that these two teams are soooo close to each other, but you're just desparate to assert the dominance of one over the other and desparate to declare hasbeen status.

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