2013 Junior Worlds Ladies FS

Kinga · Mar 2, 2013

yuki said:
I'm a bit puzzled by Samantha's PCS. She was below Elena and just narrowly beat Julia... seriously? hwell:
Satoko's PCS were a joke. It's a shame that, at least in the judges' eyes, her qualities as an overall skater are overshadowed by her tiny jumps.

Yes, it's a shame that this is selective and concerns only some skaters but not the others. Especially that Satoko was really superior in terms of choreography, SS and interpretation.

yuki · Mar 2, 2013

Cherryy said:
Samantha had 4 URs. Too bad :no:

Also, her last spin was level 1 (and all other spins were just level 3).

TontoK · Mar 2, 2013

samba said:
Anna was overmarked, her jumps landings were a mess, none were secured. Samantha should be 3rd.

I haven't seen the protocols, but if those jumps aren't heavily marked with negative GOE... then something is definitely wrong.

demarinis5 · Mar 2, 2013

Thanks to CaroLiza I found a better link and was able to watch the final flight. Congrats to the the Russian Sweep!
Elena and Julia were great. I also loved Satoko M. program.

To bad about the ur's for Samantha. Not crazy about her placement, just saying.....

marcolee925 · Mar 2, 2013

5 jumps called UR for Cesario, plus final spin level 1 only. I would say only some of the calls are warranted, but this looks more like a calculated move...

She was NOT 6 points worse than the bronze medalist, more like 6 points better.

Jammers · Mar 2, 2013

This is why i hate this scoring system. They pick apart every little thing. And even then they seem to be blind when they look at the replays.

Cherryy · Mar 2, 2013

Here we see one thing that really frustrates me. If the jump is URed the judges just never give positive GOE, even if the UR was just slight and the jumps were huge. If the jump is URed but there's no major interruption and apart from underrotated landing the jump was huge, high or with arms over head, whatever, judges should be able to give it a positive GOE. Is it written somewhere in the rules that underrotated jumps cannot get positive GOE? It often happens that at the end of 3-2-2L there's an underrotation call but everything else was fine, yet the combination gets -1/-2 GOEs

Brenda · Mar 2, 2013

When did Julia go from being a flutzer to a lipper?

Kinga · Mar 2, 2013

Ziggy said:
I hate this sport as much as I love it...

TES is TES, PCS is PCS. Those are two different things.

Somebody can land six quads. If they aren't skating to the music, they aren't skating to the music and should get destroyed on the IN mark.

Why can't the stupid judges start marking different aspects of skating independently. It's just so frustrating.

I doubt this will happen.... Ever. It is super frustrating!

Ziggy · Mar 2, 2013

Looking at the protocols, Cesario got hosed both on the PCS and the GOE.

Her jumps were high and had secure landings with good speed and flow out. Even if she underrotated her jumps, those qualities would offset that and I'd give her base GOE overall.

Kinga said:
Yes, it's a shame that this is selective and concerns only some skaters but not the others. Especially that Satoko was really superior in terms of choreography, SS and interpretation.

I thought Miyahara had the best program tonight. And she presented it just beautifully.

Skater Boy · Mar 2, 2013

I am shocked. I didn't see Russia getting a sweep not with the US ladies around. I am not sure if Sam deserved bronze but maybe this is "karma or a balancing act because many felt the US didn't deserve gold in the pairs? thanks to Russia the US domination was prevented but who would have thought....The future looks good for the good ole USA!!!! Canada showed some promise here too - almost three ladies I think.

katymay · Mar 2, 2013

momskate said:
Elena Radionova was fantastic, deserved 1 st place.

On the positive, she is a very well conditioned athlete, she never loses speed. However, she is pre-pubescent. We'll see in a few years. (Puberty in women blows stamina to bits) The negative is her jumps, while fully rotated, lack power.

katymay · Mar 2, 2013

yuki said:
Also, her last spin was level 1 (and all other spins were just level 3).

Also, frankly, she lost speed at the end. But how funny to be this picky, as many years in the not to distant past, this program could have won U.S. Nationals.

Skater Boy · Mar 2, 2013

Totentanz said:
Isn't this a junior level competition?

Good point

!!!!!

flying camel · Mar 2, 2013

Jammers said:
All i know is the Russian girls are not all that. Those smallish jumps will not survive in the future.

I agree with you. The russians do show promise but the jumps aren't going to get any bigger after puberty.

Kutien · Mar 2, 2013

sequinsgalore
Thanks to you! Sometimes i haven`t cout jumps =)
JWC 2013 Satoko MIYAHARA
JWC 2013 Anna POGORILAYA FS
JWC 2013 Samantha CESARIO

Cherryy · Mar 2, 2013

One more thing - if Courtney hadn't received a -1 time violation, she would have been ahead of Samantha in the free

luckyguy · Mar 2, 2013

Poor Samantha. I loved her programm.

What do you think about Chartrand? I see a bright future for her.

little_meatball · Mar 2, 2013

The judging of program components has become a bigger joke than the judging of ice dancing in the 6.0 era.

koatcue · Mar 2, 2013

Happy for our girls, of course, but I really thought that Cesario will be the 3d:scratch: Her tes is blah BUT she executed everything really well what our girls couldn't do today + her pcs NO DOUBT should have been high enough to put aside Pogorilaya. I didn't like her at all..

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