2013 Junior Worlds Ladies FS
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Yes, Kaetlyn is going to have some competition on her hands soon.
I think if the other Canadian girl can avoid the puberty monster she may well be the next big thing. In my mind she has the IT factor. Cartrand is good, but lacks the commond of the ice that Gabby has. (But Gabby needs to clean up her landings and not let them get away from her)
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she got hit by major downgrades even worst than Satoko
is she prone to UR ? never followed cesario
Also Park So Youn got hosed on the PCS again. She's elegant, showed good flow and expression and I don't understand her marks at all.
A lovely skater, a real shame she lost the focus at the end of the program and did those silly mistakes.
She is, unfortunately.
A lovely skater, a real shame she lost the focus at the end of the program and did those silly mistakes.
She is, unfortunately.
Well, just no. Satoko underrotated every single triple, except for the first triple flutz. Doubt anyone else had such problems with URs
Well, not really, since Satoko got 6 (!) <.
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well Julia grew this season and she is still landing her jumps and no UR's
this season she gotten change the e on her Flips than her Lutz
The quality of her jumps is really terrible.
I saw gabby live she has high energy levels and I think is post puberty.
Not really. They are very low but she has soft landings and quite good flow out.
She's always been hit with URs ever since I remember.
At Nationals she had a total of one UR in both programs and that was on the salchow. No edge call, I believe.
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Just watched MIYAHARA's FS and not sure why some thought her program is lovely. Same here as before, she barely has any facial expression on her face (much worse than Julia), and if I need to worry about any of the 14 year olds losing jumps, she is the first to worry. Her extremely knee bend reminds me of Risa Shoji, who used to have good jumps and skates much more beautifully than Miyahara, but now she is nowhere, even though Miyahara is proportionally more slender at this moment.
She barely gets off the ice and her knee bend is so deep on the landings, I'm almost expecting her to hit the ice with the free leg every time she lands. That being said, she actually got lower PCS than TES at this competition - just to put into perspective how ridiculous her PCS really were.
If Sakato doesn't grow much more she's really going to have a hard time as a Senior. She's almost 15 and looks 9. Those tiny jumps won't help her either.
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Gabby Daleman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eZe2p1LVSZo
Alaine Chartrand:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxwryv_jwc-2013-alaine-chartrand-fs_sport#from=embediframe
Just wanted to send a huge shout out to Canadians Gabrielle Daleman (6th) and Alaine Chartrand (8th) who both had amazing performances and came oh so close to getting a third women's spot for Canada. Both of these girls made the senior podium at Canadian nationals this past January, and were able to show why here. Such bright futures, and so much to be proud of!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eZe2p1LVSZo
Alaine Chartrand:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxwryv_jwc-2013-alaine-chartrand-fs_sport#from=embediframe
Just wanted to send a huge shout out to Canadians Gabrielle Daleman (6th) and Alaine Chartrand (8th) who both had amazing performances and came oh so close to getting a third women's spot for Canada. Both of these girls made the senior podium at Canadian nationals this past January, and were able to show why here. Such bright futures, and so much to be proud of!
At JGP Austria last fall, she only had 1 UR, on the 2A sequence and the edge call on the Lutz. She actually beat Hannah Miller in the FS here, though she got third overall.
At JGP Poland in 2011, she had 1 UR (filp), and the lutz edge call.
At JGP Estonia 2011, she had 2 URs (all on the 3 jump combo, both the 3S and 2Lo were ruled as UR) and hte edge call.
So she has had URs at every junior competition, but hardly chronic...it's like the judges said -- oh let's give you UR for all the jumps you've cumulatively gotten URs in the past! (I know that is not what happened...but just being funny).
I'm sad because Cesario got a 4th here. Losing to Pogorilaya was unacceptable. Crowd booed a bit, but they should have protested more, as well as the USA federation (what can they do in that situation? In gymnastics, you can protest scores related to the Difficult of the program, something like the base value in figure skating)
My opinion on all of this: First of all: technicall callers have too much power. They can basically decide who wins and who loses. The judges have to give negative or 0 goe when the jump was given a ur call, even if they thought the jump was fine. The other problem is that there's no clear definition of a take-off and landing, not enough details regarding the definition of technicall elements.
Second: Judges don't help when they give pcs totally based on the reputation of the skater. They simply chose a mark, and repeat it for almost all pcs, except for transitions, which is a little lower. PCS should be judged by a separated panel, imo.
But an even bigger problem is this OBSESSION with rotations, under rotations and so on. A competition like that is what happens when the tech panel doesn't let the skaters skate. Horrible results that don't reflect the actual performances.
My opinion on all of this: First of all: technicall callers have too much power. They can basically decide who wins and who loses. The judges have to give negative or 0 goe when the jump was given a ur call, even if they thought the jump was fine. The other problem is that there's no clear definition of a take-off and landing, not enough details regarding the definition of technicall elements.
Second: Judges don't help when they give pcs totally based on the reputation of the skater. They simply chose a mark, and repeat it for almost all pcs, except for transitions, which is a little lower. PCS should be judged by a separated panel, imo.
But an even bigger problem is this OBSESSION with rotations, under rotations and so on. A competition like that is what happens when the tech panel doesn't let the skaters skate. Horrible results that don't reflect the actual performances.
While I think Samantha should have received bronze, I hope that she will learn from this competition. She does give away points on the levels of her spins (they should be level 4....and level 1 is just unacceptable). And she needs to works and make sure those landings are clean so the judge cannot have any doubts on their rotation.
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