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    News Lysacek expects to compete in Sochi

    Found this as one of the headlines on my Yahoo! homepage. I was quite surprised since American media doesn't usually seem to pay any attention to figure skating (didn't even mention the World Championships last month). Hence, my surprise at finding the link to this article near the top of the page.

    And with this, SOCHI PR-ing HAS OFFICIALLY BEGUN!

    Lysacek expects to compete in Sochi
    By BARRY WILNER (AP Sports Writer)

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/lysacek...9500--spt.html

    Lysacek always has prided himself on being psychologically better than his competitors. There are some who believe his steadiness in Vancouver unnerved his main rival, Plushenko, who was sloppy in the free skate while Lysacek was near-perfect.

    To Lysacek, a strong mind is as important as a fit body, which is saying a lot considering what a workaholic Lysacek is; longtime coach Frank Carroll often has had to ask Lysacek to cut back his time on the ice.

    ''My focus is like a laser right now,'' he said. ''I guess in a way I am lucky to have so much experiences, all those competitions throughout my career and to really know what works for me and what does not.

    ''It can be kind of an experimental process for the younger skaters, but I am able to have that laser focus and know what I need to do and, just as important, what I need not to do.''

    One thing Lysacek didn't need much of before was the quad. His presentation, technical strength, emotion and attention to detail were his trademarks and carried him to the top of his profession.

    But now ...

    ''I have a firm plan to put in a quad toe,'' Lysacek said of the four-revolution jump that, to him, has had a somewhat negative effect on the sport. ''It was going really well before all the complications of the last year, and it is a strong jump for me.

    ''A totally different question is what I think of the quad in competition, I still think it is more important to skate cleanly, which is still my goal and what I go for. I want to nail every trick and every pass. When I take off my skater's hat, I like to watch everyone skate clean.''
    He would like to be the first men's repeat-OGM since Dick Button ... just like Plushenko did in 2010.

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    Hm... well, I guess good for him on attempting a comeback, but I think we'll have to see what happens when he hits the ice. He really should have started his bid this season. With the weak performances at Worlds he could have at least attempted a clean performance and made top 10 (or at least beaten Miner). But nowadays you need a quad in both programs to even be considered a contender. I'm not sure what he's planning to achieve or prove, but I'm not going to entirely count him out. He'll have to make it past Nationals first, and that will be difficult to say the least.

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    Well I just took a big gulp of air. Hope it lasts me until we realize he isn't going to make that comeback. He doesn't stand a chance in the men's field without quads. Ain't gonna happen! First of all I wish Evan well - but I think we can count the weeks/months before he's felled with another injury that will keep him out of the competition.

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    Of one thing I'm sure regarding Evan's return: If he is a 2014 Olympics participant, he will be well prepared both mentally and physically for the competition!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aftertherain View Post
    Found this as one of the headlines on my Yahoo! homepage. I was quite surprised since American media doesn't usually seem to pay any attention to figure skating (didn't even mention the World Championships last month). Hence, my surprise at finding the link to this article near the top of the page.

    And with this, SOCHI PR-ing HAS OFFICIALLY BEGUN!

    Lysacek expects to compete in Sochi
    By BARRY WILNER (AP Sports Writer)

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/lysacek...9500--spt.html



    He would like to be the first men's repeat-OGM since Dick Button ... just like Plushenko did in 2010.
    Seriously, can't he go away? We already bought him one OGM, he shouldn't let it go to his head. He needs to look at the field like Michelle did in 2009. She saw the level of talent that she would have to go up against, and realized the the form she would have to produce was unlikely. It's going to be even more difficult that the field was for the women in 2010, the men in 2014. Not just on the World stage, but even here in the US. There aren't three spots, Evan, there are two, and the field is not what it was in 2009, where he, Johnny, and Jeremy were really all solidly in, since they were all Past Champions, and Johnny and Evan had won world medals (and Evan being the reigning WC). Going clean without a quad isn't gonna cut it.

    You're gonna need to be pristine clean with everything plus the quads to do it. The final flight at the Olympics is going to be even tougher, Evan. You're definitely gonna need a quad in the SP to make the final flight. You're not facing a man in Plushenko who eschewed programs for jumps, or a triple Axel-less Lambiel, etc. You're gonna be up against men who can do it all and can do 3-4 Quads (Or in Reynolds' case, 5). I have no doubt you're going to work your *** off, Evan, you always do... I appreciate you in that way, your dedication is really bar none, I believe. Realistically, though, I don't see it happening. However, if you can do a quad in the short, and two quad in the long, and bring that fire the rest of the way. By all means, prove me wrong.

    BTW, this is the key of the whole article (which you pointed out aftertherain):
    ''I have a firm plan to put in a quad toe,'' Lysacek said of the four-revolution jump that, to him, has had a somewhat negative effect on the sport. ''It was going really well before all the complications of the last year, and it is a strong jump for me.
    ''A totally different question is what I think of the quad in competition, I still think it is more important to skate cleanly, which is still my goal and what I go for. I want to nail every trick and every pass. When I take off my skater's hat, I like to watch everyone skate clean.''
    Get serious and face the realization that you can't be clean w/o a quad and expect anything Clean + Quads is gonna be the name of the game. You can't have one or the other, Evan. It's gotta be both, or nothing.

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    This whole comeback is just a big PR stunt like Nastia's was. Maybe at one point it was legit but he got scared since he realized he wouldnt be as competitive as before (very true), then did have a legit injury or two, and now he is so far behind he wouldnt have a hope. However he will keep the charade going just for the attention since after Sochi there wont even be a little bit of interest in him anymore.

    In the hugely unlikely event he does show up at Nationals though I would give him about 20% chance to make the team, and if he somehow makes the Games I would give him about 3% chance to finish any higher than say 7th place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    He really should have started his bid this season.
    Evan intended to compete this season. However, he was forced to WD from Skate America due to injury and subsequently had surgery on November 20. He was not cleared to resume on ice training until 2.5 weeks before US Nationals.

    There have been many reports that, prior to the injury, Lysacek was skating at a very high level with a quad. Now the question is whether Lysacek can fully recover from the surgery and regain all of his jumps back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateFan66 View Post
    Evan intended to compete this season. However, he was forced to WD from Skate America due to injury and subsequently had surgery on November 20. He was not cleared to resume on ice training until 2.5 weeks before US Nationals.

    There have been many reports that, prior to the injury, Lysacek was skating at a very high level with a quad. Now the question is whether Lysacek can fully recover from the surgery and regain all of his jumps back.
    There were many reports that Michelle was skating well prior to Torino, too. We all saw what happened. Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zschultz1986 View Post

    There were many reports that Michelle was skating well prior to Torino, too. We all saw what happened. Time will tell.
    Of course, time will tell. Lysacek will have to recover from the injury and then remain injury free until Sochi. However, time will tell for all the skaters. Hopefully ALL of the skaters can remain injury free and it will be a very competitive 2013-14 season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateFan66 View Post
    Of course, time will tell. Lysacek will have to recover from the injury and then remain injury free until Sochi. However, time will tell for all the skaters. Hopefully ALL of the skaters can remain injury free and it will be a very competitive 2013-14 season.
    I can wholeheartedly get behind this statement.

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    There are some who believe his steadiness in Vancouver unnerved his main rival, Plushenko, who was sloppy in the free skate while Lysacek was near-perfect.
    There is not one single person on the face of the earth who thinks this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    There is not one single person on the face of the earth who thinks this.
    It was totally brand new to his article! Never before written! Maybe lysacek told him that or Carroll did- somewhere. Was that the writers theory? In COr 2009 Russian nationals 2010 and euros 2010 plushenko doubled triples or tripled quads so at the Olympics plushenko did none of that? If anything the Olympics made plushenko the strongest he'd been all season!!!

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    Even IF he recovers from his surgery and IF he gets his quad toe back, who can say if that will be enough? Some of the men are going for as many as three quads. One quad in the FS won't match that, and since he's been away for 4 years, his PCS may not be as high either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateFan66 View Post
    Evan intended to compete this season. However, he was forced to WD from Skate America due to injury and subsequently had surgery on November 20. He was not cleared to resume on ice training until 2.5 weeks before US Nationals.

    There have been many reports that, prior to the injury, Lysacek was skating at a very high level with a quad. Now the question is whether Lysacek can fully recover from the surgery and regain all of his jumps back
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    In an interview with Dave and Jenny, Tim Goebel (his old training mate under Frank Carroll), definitively stressed that Evan is the type to over-train. While it would be nice for him to go back to that level after his recovery, chances that he'll re-injure himself are likely if he continues on training like he does.

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    There are some who believe his steadiness in Vancouver unnerved his main rival, Plushenko, who was sloppy in the free skate while Lysacek was near-perfect.
    Really? Like who...?

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