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    2013 Worlds Ice Dance Short Dance SD

    Ice Dance Technical Panel: Referee - Hilary Selby GBR, Technical Controller - Ingrid Charlotte Wolter GER, Technical Specialist - Marie Bowness CAN, Assistant Technical Specialist - Judy Blumberg USA

    Live results link
    http://www.isuresults.com/results/wc2013/SEG007.HTM

    Warm-Up Group 1
    1 Allison REED / Vasili ROGOV ISR
    2 Justyna PLUTOWSKA / Peter GERBER POL
    3 Olesia KARMI / Max LINDHOLM FIN
    4 Sara HURTADO / Adria DIAZ ESP

    Warm-Up Group 2
    5 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN
    6 Federica TESTA / Lukas CSOLLEY SVK
    7 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA
    8 Siobhan HEEKIN-CANEDY / Dmitri DUN UKR
    9 Isabella TOBIAS / Deividas STAGNIUNAS LTU

    Warm-Up Group 3
    10 Irina SHTORK / Taavi RAND EST
    11 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Neil BROWN CZE
    12 Zsuzsanna NAGY / Mate FEJES HUN
    13 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR
    14 Viktoria KAVALIOVA / Yurii BIELIAIEV BLR

    Warm-Up Group 4
    15 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES USA
    16 Julia ZLOBINA / Alexei SITNIKOV AZE
    17 Cathy REED / Chris REED JPN
    18 Ekaterina RIAZANOVA / Ilia TKACHENKO RUS
    19 Pernelle CARRON / Lloyd JONES FRA

    Warm-Up Group 5
    20 Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE USA
    21 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND GBR
    22 Nelli ZHIGANSHINA / Alexander GAZSI GER
    23 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN
    24 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN

    Warm-Up Group 6
    25 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT FRA
    26 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA
    27 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI USA
    28 Elena ILINYKH / Nikita KATSALAPOV RUS
    29 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV RUS
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    How is this fair?

    How the heck is it that Marie Bowness of Canada is the tech specialist for two successive Worlds in ice dance? Talk about severe unfair advantage there, given that the single most important person for setting levels in the tech specialist. And that these placements of tech panels are done direcly by Cinquanta with the assistance of the head of figure skating, Dave Dore of Canada, with some suggestions by the federation holding the championships, Canada.

    2012
    http://www.isuresults.com/results/wc2012/SEG011OF.HTM

    2013
    http://www.isuresults.com/results/wc2013/SEG007OF.HTM

    Does Bowness get to be the tech specialist at Worlds or Olympics next year, too

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    At least Judy Blumberg is the ATS for Dance.

    Canada also has the ATS for Pairs (and a Pairs judge), the Referee for Ladies, and the Tech Controller for Men.
    It looks as if Canada took the tech/ref spots in return for not having judges in Men, Ladies and Dance.

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    Well considering how much of a DW Uber Judy Blumberg is, I think that it evens out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macassar88 View Post
    Well considering how much of a DW Uber Judy Blumberg is, I think that it evens out.
    Do people think Judy Blumberg is an "uber" because she was critical of V/M at Worlds two years ago? Or is there a substantive reason?

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    Not Surprising really
    really Canada wants to own the podium on home ice with Gold in Ice Dance and Men, Bronze for Ladies , Silver (and Bronze ) maybe for Pairs, lol
    as I said V/M are locks for gold no matter how they will skate too bad for D/W

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitchem View Post
    Do people think Judy Blumberg is an "uber" because she was critical of V/M at Worlds two years ago? Or is there a substantive reason?
    The former. It's worth remembering that Blumberg was on the panel that shellacked D/W at 4CC in 2012 that raises a few eyebrows. It's also worth mentioning that the USA has three representatives on the tech panels as well.

    I do wish that it wasn't the case, if only because you can totally see people using this to tarnish any results they don't like (see the prediction thread, or even doris' comments).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    How the heck is it that Marie Bowness of Canada is the tech specialist for two successive Worlds in ice dance?

    Shin Amano of Japan has been technical specialist in the ladies event for 3 years in a row: 2010, 2011 and 2012. It's not a first, though it wasn't a matter of national favoritism with him, he was pretty strict to all the ladies in the end(even stricter to Mao in 2010). Let's see the competition outcome before, it might turn out alright.

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    What it does say, is there are not enough technical specialists yet in either ladies or dance; it is one of the things about IJS that annoys me. My preference would be that the specialist would not be from the top 3 ranked countries in a championship event (Worlds, 4CCs, Europeans, GPF).

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    Then you would have TSpecs from BLR, UZB, EST, GEO. And if those countries don't have Tspecs, guess who would lend some to them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    What it does say, is there are not enough technical specialists yet in either ladies or dance; it is one of the things about IJS that annoys me. My preference would be that the specialist would not be from the top 3 ranked countries in a championship event (Worlds, 4CCs, Europeans, GPF).
    This is definitely a problem. I do agree that it would be best if the technical specialists came from the countries whose skaters aren't medal contenders in that particular event.

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    Warm-Up Group 1
    1 Allison REED / Vasili ROGOV
    ISR
    2 Justyna PLUTOWSKA / Peter GERBER
    POL
    3 Olesia KARMI / Max LINDHOLM
    FIN
    4 Sara HURTADO / Adria DIAZ
    ESP
    Warm-Up Group 2
    5 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER
    CAN
    6 Federica TESTA / Lukas CSOLLEY
    SVK
    7 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI
    ITA
    8 Siobhan HEEKIN-CANEDY / Dmitri DUN
    UKR
    9 Isabella TOBIAS / Deividas STAGNIUNAS
    LTU
    Warm-Up Group 3
    10 Irina SHTORK / Taavi RAND
    EST
    11 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Neil BROWN
    CZE
    12 Zsuzsanna NAGY / Mate FEJES
    HUN
    13 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR
    TUR
    14 Viktoria KAVALIOVA / Yurii BIELIAIEV
    BLR
    Warm-Up Group 4
    15 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES
    USA
    16 Julia ZLOBINA / Alexei SITNIKOV
    AZE
    17 Cathy REED / Chris REED
    JPN
    18 Ekaterina RIAZANOVA / Ilia TKACHENKO
    RUS
    19 Pernelle CARRON / Lloyd JONES
    FRA
    Warm-Up Group 5
    20 Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE
    USA
    21 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND
    GBR
    22 Nelli ZHIGANSHINA / Alexander GAZSI
    GER
    23 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE
    CAN
    24 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR
    CAN
    Warm-Up Group 6
    25 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT
    FRA
    26 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE
    ITA
    27 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI
    USA
    28 Elena ILINYKH / Nikita KATSALAPOV
    RUS
    29 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    This is definitely a problem. I do agree that it would be best if the technical specialists came from the countries whose skaters aren't medal contenders in that particular event.
    I seem to remember when Marika Humphreys was Tech Spec at Worlds, she was heavily criticized on here - especially because her hubby was originally Ukrainian, and this was deemed the reason she would be biased by some posters.

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