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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    It Is not just that the worlds were a qualifier for the Olympics. It was what Adelina and Elizaveta were presumably working towards Doing well at all season! But instead of doing well or respectably given their level of talent one placed 14 in the sp and the other 8th! It's not like they haven't known for years this is where they wanted to be and were expected to be by everyone for years. Ok both their bodies changed or whatever but they could do everything they planned in both their Sps and lp's and demonstrated it really a few weeks earlier! If worlds comes and they can't do What they can do- no excuse is good. This is where they wanted to be , expected to be, and could do everything. Li didn't medal at any gp but saved her best for worlds which is what i assume every skater wants. Ok so Liza and Adelina are expected to win or medal at every event they go to and when they don't there's problems for them. Of course there is! They have all the talent to win! And they want to do well so if there is a problem they should want to face It and fix it. Euros showed the growth issues werent a problem!
    I think that Euros was the flash in the pan, not Worlds. Really, Kostner was the only other skater in Zagreb who could have given the Russian girls a hard time, and she did, even without a clean 3-3 in either segment of the competition. In Korpi's absence, either Tukt or Sotnikova NOT medalling would have boded ill for the future of Russian skating.

    Sotnikova is nearly seventeen, and should be done growing. She's well-proportioned--long, strong legs, a flexible and lean torso. Her issue is a psychological one that causes her to doubt herself WHILE SHE'S ROTATING A JUMP, which is a fail-safe recipe for disaster.

    But I have to wonder if you even watched Tukt at Worlds. Each movement she made, even in her much-improved free skate, seemed painstaking and slow. It almost looked like she was wading through water while her legs slowly gave out with each jumping pass. She hit a high note at TEB, Russian Nationals, and Euros, but it was painfully clear at the GPF and Worlds that she's still struggling with growth.

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    I don't think they're done yet. Same with Osmond. Give them time.

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    Obviously I watched worlds and it the whole competition was a possibly a ruinous moment for both skaters as it was a total "emperor has no clothes" situation for both of them. They both need radical overhauls in everything about their skating if they want to make it as seniors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    Obviously I watched worlds and it the whole competition was a possibly a ruinous moment for both skaters as it was a total "emperor has no clothes" situation for both of them. They both need radical overhauls in everything about their skating if they want to make it as seniors.
    All right, as you wish.

    But I (and most others, I'd assume) don't consider top ten at their first Worlds to be "ruinous." They could both certainly use some coaching in mental toughness, but everything else should fall into place after they cross the growth barrier and start peaking later in the season.

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    Their placement is irrelevant to how they skated. What does 9 and 10 really mean when you can go there and medal your first time. Place 4th in a sp and 4th in an lp which is what osmond and li did. I don't get the big deal about top 10 a worlds their first time. Maybe they should be happy they even qualified for the free skate I guess if that's a standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    Their placement is irrelevant to how they skated.
    I agree, it's irrelevant. They skated quite well overall and in every other year (except maybe 2007 and 2009) they would have probably placed around 5th or 6th place (especially last year). The level was very very high this year. One would assume they skated worse just by seeing the final outcome.

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    If they both hadn't bombed they could have been up there with zijun li and gold. Not having a 14th place sp would have been good for 5th or 6th possibly. Their level can't be high? Too bad for them the level was high? That's what their level is supposed to be. At least 4th like zijun li or gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    Their placement is irrelevant to how they skated. What does 9 and 10 really mean when you can go there and medal your first time. Place 4th in a sp and 4th in an lp which is what osmond and li did. I don't get the big deal about top 10 a worlds their first time. Maybe they should be happy they even qualified for the free skate I guess if that's a standard.
    It's worth noting that Osmond was 8th in the FS and Li was all the way back in 12th after the SP. In terms of visible errors, Osmond wins the title with two back-to-back falls in the FS. Tukt comes in a close second, with the impromptu knee slide in the SP that was such a freak of nature, even she was shocked. Li and Sotnikova each fell once, which killed their chances at the top 5.

    You really expected the Russian babies to medal in their first time out? With Mao, Carolina, and Yuna present and at top form?

    Sotnikova's score of 175.98 would have placed her fifth at 2012 Worlds ahead of Murakami and Asada, fifth at 2011 Worlds ahead of Murakami and Asada, and sixth at 2010 Worlds ahead of Nagasu and Suzuki. Tukt's score of 174.24 would have (separately) placed her sixth at 2012 Worlds, fifth at 2011 Worlds, and eighth at 2010 Worlds.

    Mirunna is right--in any other year but this one, Tukt and Sotnikova would have had VERY respectable finishes for their debut Worlds. Overall, neither of them skated particularly worse than what they've been putting out all season (excepting Tukt's SP accident), but now they've gotten at taste of Worlds and can use the knowledge to prepare for next year. The pre-Olympic Worlds is usually the toughest. Gracie Gold's sixth-place 184.25 would have gotten her the BRONZE MEDAL in 2012, a hairsbreadth behind Alena Leonova.

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    I just realized that in world mao's FS score was her personal best; broke the record of 6 years ago

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