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2013 Worlds Men LP

pangtongfan

Match Penalty
Joined
Jun 16, 2010
What they will achieve in terms of medals is far from certain, but to categorize them as fallen former stars is presumptuous. They are still very much rising IMO.

I do agree. If by 2016 they still havent achieved anything then perhaps.
 

wallylutz

Medalist
Joined
Mar 23, 2010
I agree! He should have finished way ahead of Fernandez on PCS.

If you judge based on reputation alone, sure, why not just award Takahashi a trophy for Mr. Congeniality and be done with skating? Based on performance tonight, Fernandez is clearly better than any of the Japanese men.
 

guanchi

On the Ice
Joined
Mar 31, 2012
Max Aaron is a beast!!:eek:
That rink literally looks too small for him, he looks like a demon unleashed.
He is all quads (not talking bout just his jumps)
 

Gymfan15

On the Ice
Joined
Mar 28, 2009
Just kind of jumping in here, but...

Who does the ISU think they're fooling? If they think they're going to get through Sochi without a MAJOR scandal and negative press eruption, they're delusional. It seems like I can't get through a single skating competition without at least one result that leaves me scratching my head with jaw open.

I don't understand. Figure skating is on the decline in nearly every country in the world except parts of Asia. It's not really in the mainstream press except during the Olympics; in the grand scheme of things Worlds don't matter that much. But suddenly you get to the Olympics and it is THE glitter sport of the event and every eye is trained upon it, and the ISU thinks it'll be okay? Figure skating's credibility is going to be RIPPED APART in Sochi. If you thought the men's event in Vancouver was drama-worthy, wait till ice dance in Sochi...or pairs...or ladies...or men's. Each discipline has got a major catastrophe waiting to happen because we've seen it played out time and time again over the last four years.

Honestly, at this point if the competition in Sochi is anything like Worlds, I'm expecting SLC levels of outrage. People are going to be pissed and it is NOT going to be good for the ISU. How are they supposed to get good publicity, more sponsors and increased sport participation? It'll be the joke of the winter Olympics!

Anyone who thinks that we're going to get through Sochi without some filthy scoring and legitimate outrage is deluding themselves. It makes me sad, because no major sponsor is going to want to associate themselves with a sport that is just ripe for controversy and drama. Why would a company like say, Kelloggs want to throw their support behind a talented athlete like Patrick Chan because they know that his bad press (by association) is their bad press? No can do. No wonder it took Marlie so long to pick up a major endorsement with all the craziness between them and V/M.

I dunno. Maybe I'm just really fed up with everything. But this is not going to end well.
 

Sabrina

Record Breaker
Joined
Feb 13, 2013
Call me stupid but I think that today Reynolds was better than Chan! How could the difference be so huge? Kevin did not fall! Yes he was not as good as he was in 4 CC or the nationals. I think that being the last skater worked against him. But what I want to say is that Patrick should have scored just a bit less than Reynolds.
 

wallylutz

Medalist
Joined
Mar 23, 2010
When even the British Eurosport guys talk about how it would be the shoddiest performance to win etc etc, you know it's bad, since they never have a bad word to say about anyone.

Nah, don't turn them into saints. They are quite opinionated and biased. Fun to hear but their biases are also quite obvious.
 

VIETgrlTerifa

Record Breaker
Joined
Jul 26, 2003
If you judge based on reputation alone, sure, why not just award Takahashi a trophy for Mr. Congeniality and be done with skating? Based on performance tonight, Fernandez is clearly better than any of the Japanese men.

Why not? The current World Champion consistently wins based on reputation.

Yeah yeah, point out how he deserved every point he got in COP...We heard it a million times.
 

pangtongfan

Match Penalty
Joined
Jun 16, 2010
Just kind of jumping in here, but...

Who does the ISU think they're fooling? If they think they're going to get through Sochi without a MAJOR scandal and negative press eruption, they're delusional. It seems like I can't get through a single skating competition without at least one result that leaves me scratching my head with jaw open.

I don't understand. Figure skating is on the decline in nearly every country in the world except parts of Asia. It's not really in the mainstream press except during the Olympics; in the grand scheme of things Worlds don't matter that much. But suddenly you get to the Olympics and it is THE glitter sport of the event and every eye is trained upon it, and the ISU thinks it'll be okay? Figure skating's credibility is going to be RIPPED APART in Sochi. If you thought the men's event in Vancouver was drama-worthy, wait till ice dance in Sochi...or pairs...or ladies...or men's. Each discipline has got a major catastrophe waiting to happen because we've seen it played out time and time again over the last four years.

Honestly, at this point if the competition in Sochi is anything like Worlds, I'm expecting SLC levels of outrage. People are going to be pissed and it is NOT going to be good for the ISU. How are they supposed to get good publicity, more sponsors and increased sport participation? It'll be the joke of the winter Olympics!

Anyone who thinks that we're going to get through Sochi without some filthy scoring and legitimate outrage is deluding themselves. It makes me sad, because no major sponsor is going to want to associate themselves with a sport that is just ripe for controversy and drama. Why would a company like say, Kelloggs want to throw their support behind a talented athlete like Patrick Chan because they know that his bad press (by association) is their bad press? No can do. No wonder it took Marlie so long to pick up a major endorsement with all the craziness between them and V/M.

I dunno. Maybe I'm just really fed up with everything. But this is not going to end well.

Very well said. I hope the judges and ISU would be wise enough to not allow a result like tonight in Sochi. If they do it could be the final death knall on the sport.
 

lavender

Record Breaker
Joined
Jul 26, 2003
Kevin's jumps are so low especially compared to others. That's one of the reasons I"m not so wow when he does multiple quads or jumps.
 

chuckm

Record Breaker
Joined
Aug 31, 2003
Country
United-States
Does anyone know which countries the judges, technical controller and technical specialists are from? I tried finding it but the ISU web page states the judges but under Nations says ISU...when was the ISU considered a nation? :mad: :bang:

MEN'S FS
Referee Mona JONSSON SWE
Tech Controller Beth CRANE CAN
Tech Spec Pirjo UIMONEN FIN
Asst Tech Spec Zsofia KULCZAR HUN

JUDGES:
Nadezhda FIODOROVA BLR
Daniel DELFA ESP
Volker WALDECK GER
Walter TOIGO ITA
Elena FOMINA RUS
Nobuhiko YOSHIOKA JPN
Jarmila PORTOVA CZE
Anna SIEROCKA POL
Tatiana YORDANOVA BUL
 

wonderlen3000

Final Flight
Joined
Nov 8, 2008
Nope, 2nd. Hmm. Oh well.

Chan just won't get off that top spot, no matter how hard he tries to give it away.

LOL ITA. He really tries didn't he?? Last year, he had one fall and one popped jump. This year 2 falls, 1 pop and one UR and stepout jump. Oh well, the judges might as well hand him his Olym gold already.
 

blue_idealist

Record Breaker
Joined
Feb 25, 2006
Very well said. I hope the judges and ISU would be wise enough to not allow a result like tonight in Sochi. If they do it could be the final death knall on the sport.

I bet if it was the Olympics, they would have given it to Denis Ten. I could be wrong but that's what I think. They would be afraid of another scandal like SLC Pairs 2002 if they let Chan win.

Btw, after seeing the men tonight, I'm dubious about Plushenko's chances at another Olympic gold. :laugh:
 

ks777

Record Breaker
Joined
Aug 15, 2003
Kevin's jumps are so low especially compared to others. That's one of the reasons I"m not so wow when he does multiple quads or jumps.
Yeah his jumps are very small and his jump techniques aren't good either.
 

guanchi

On the Ice
Joined
Mar 31, 2012
Ladies skating doesn't feel ladieezzzz anymore after watching some of the men. The champion is mistake ridden, the teen phenom has stamina issues, the charismatic veteran is ageing and injury prone, the cupie doll canadian is all jumps, the spaniard is not all there yet, the american is flying into the boards...well at least the kazakh saved the day. Congrats D10!
 

Jaana

Record Breaker
Joined
Jul 27, 2003
Country
Finland
LOL ITA. He really tries didn't he?? Last year, he had one fall and one popped jump. This year 2 falls, 1 pop and one UR and stepout jump. Oh well, the judges might as well hand him his Olym gold already.

LOL, it is possible that Chan will be suffering from the Canadian curse at the Olympics, the statistics are very much against him as the reigning World champion winning the gold in Sochi....

Congratulations to Fernandez and Ten for their medals!!! Oh my, all in all this sure was a very strange competition.
 

Mao88

Record Breaker
Joined
Mar 9, 2011
MEN'S FREE SKATE - RESULT & VIDEOS (Updated)

1. Patrick CHAN (CAN) - 267.78 Free Skate, 2nd Copy
2. Denis TEN (KAZ) - 266.48 Free Skate, 2nd Copy
3. Javier FERNANDEZ (ESP) - 249.06 Free Skate, 2nd Copy
4. Yuzuru HANYU (JPN) - 244.99 Free Skate
5. Kevin REYNOLDS (CAN) - 239.98 Free Skate, 2nd Copy
6. Daisuke TAKAHASHI (JPN) - 239.03 Free Skate, 2nd Copy
7. Max AARON (USA) - 238.36 Free Skate, 2nd Copy
8. Takahito MURA (JPN) - 234.18 Free Skate
9. Brian JOUBERT (FRA) - 232.26 Free Skate, 2nd Copy
10. Michal BREZINA (CZE) - 229.00 Free Skate, 2nd Copy
11. Peter LIEBERS (GER) - 216.84
12. Florent AMODIO (FRA) - 216.83 Free Skate
13. Andrei ROGOZINE (CAN) - 216.60
14. Ross MINER (USA) - 211.90
15. Nan SONG (CHN) 207.68 Free Skate
16. Misha GE (UZB) - 207.50
17. Maxim KOVTUN (RUS) - 207.40
18. Alexander MAJOROV (SWE) - 204.29
19. Jorik HENDRICKX (BEL) - 192.19
20. Viktor PFEIFER (AUT) - 189.44 Free Skate
21. Tomas VERNER (CZE) - 180.50
22. Viktor ROMANENKOV (EST) - 177.09
23. Yakov GODOROZHA (UKR) - 174.98
24. Justus STRID (DEN) - 165.23
 
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