Maybe Patrick should do the same as well. He consistently has trouble performing his planned elements. However, Jeremy Abbott gets heavily criticized for the same thing. Of course, Abbott can't land beautiful quads the way Chan can now.
Fan #1: "Hey, what's going on, I though the other guy skated better."
Fan #2: "No, see, it's right here in the protocols. The first place guy got a 1.4 GOE points for his triple flip and 8.75 for choreography.
Fan #1: "Well, I still thought the other guy was better."
Fan #2 (patiently): No, the second place guy only got 0.14 GOE on his triple loop and 8.25 for P&E. Now do you understand?"
The two fans go their separate ways. Fan #1 thinks fan #2 is being deliberately obtuse in pretending not to understand what "I think the other guy skated better" means.
The second fan thinks it is the first fan who is being stubborn, pretending not to know what 2+2 - 4 means.
(By the way, the exchange between Bluebonnet and me on this thread is not of this type. I thought Chan skated eh?, Bluebonnet thought he skated great, apart from the jump errors. That's cool. No harm, no foul.)
So, as I said before, keep the ilusions, Patrick was the real winner, and it was a really incredible and beautiful victory, as most of the times he wins! No cheating at all!
Chan was given the title because
(1) it was in Canada
(2) some judges wanted to activate the jinx to miss the Olympic gold medal
(3) they didn't want to make Denis Ten the Olympic favorite (even for a medal)
I actually set my heart before the worlds and rooted for Chan to fall down the podium. I'd be very very happy if he did. Why? Because I want him to find a real coach. Sorry, Chan fans. But the numbers which I largely agree with said he won. Oh, well, what can you say? He won. Damn!
Patrick got full base value of 11.00 for his unsuccessful attempt at a 3F+1Lo+3S combination. He lost only 1.30 in GOE for a whopping 9.70 points net. (I know, I know -- he got in the rotations).
He got base value of 6.60 for an under-rotated triple Axel with a fall, and he got a base value of 6.00 for a fall on a triple Lutz. Even after UR penalty, maximum negative GOE, and fall penalties, he still netted 5.50 points for the two. (I know, I know -- he rotated the Lutz before falling and he got at least most of the way around on the Axel before falling.)
That is a lot of points for failed tricks that did nothing but mar the program. (But according the IJS, they didn't mar the program much -- just a couple of points in overall PCS.)
(Again, I am not faulting Patrick -- he didn't fall on purpose, and he didn't design the CoP.)
As for the argument that Patrick deserved to win because everybody knows his skating skills are superior to Dennis Ten's -- no, I don't buy that at all. I don't care if you are Superman, you still have to deliver the goods when your name is called.
It is the rules (and their application) that I am finding fault with, not Patrick.
Just because the rules apply to everyone, that does not make them good rules.
Last edited by Mathman; 03-28-2013 at 12:36 PM.
The door was opened and no one went through it.
The Japanese team appeared decimated and skated very poorly for whatever reason. It was sad to see . I was looking forward to a wonderful men's event and didnt get it.
Ten was consistent in both programs and his PCS shouldnt really have jumped so much. It seemed that the judges gifted him the higher PCS to award the free skate to him and to make a point to Chan.
The quality of Skating between Patrick and Denis is night and day in Patricks favour.