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    World Team Trophy Entries

    Rules and who can compete in WTT
    is it the Top 2 on SB skaters from a country ? or the ones who competed at Worlds

    Can Julia compete ? I recall Adelina competed after Junior Worlds also

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    Didn't Kovtun compete last year?

    So no, the skater did not have to compete at Worlds.

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    My guess is that it will be France, USA, Japan, Canada, Russia, and Italy. (Maybe China, not sure.)

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    Italy should be out, since we have 0 GP Men points and just 292 GP Ladies points, since Carolina didn't compete... :(

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    It's offical: Japan, USA, Canada, France, Russia and China are the six teams to compete at the World Team Trophy. Congratulaitons to them!
    http://www2.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/p...0.html?id=1294

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    I believe the rule is that you HAVE TO compete at WTT if you are the top ranking skater/couple (two two for singles) AND you finish top 10 at Worlds. Otherwise everything is fair game.

    MEN:
    Canada: Both Patrick Chan (WR 1/WC 1) and Kevin Reynolds (WR 16 (next best)/WC 5) will be required to go
    Japan: Yuzuru Hanyu (WR 2/WC 4) and Daisuke Takahashi (WR 3/WC 6) will be required to go
    USA: Open field. Jeremy Abbott did not compete at Worlds and Ross Miner did not rank in the top 10, so the U.S. is free to pick whoever.
    France: Brian Joubert (WR 13 (2nd best for France)/WC 9) will be required to go. Florent Amodio will not since he did not rank in the top 10 at Worlds.
    Russia: Open field. Two two ranking guys were Gachniski and Menshov and neither competed at Worlds.
    China: Open field. Han Yan did not compete at Worlds and Nan Song did not place in the top 10.

    LADIES
    Canada: Kaetlyn Osmond (WR 32/WC 8) will have to compete. Amelie Lacoste is ranked 24 in WR, but was not at Worlds so not obliged to compete.
    Japan: Mao Asada ( WR 3/WC 3) will have to compete. Akiko Suzuki is the top ranking skater, but she did not place in the top 10 at Worlds.
    USA: Ashley Wagner (WR 5/WC 5) will have to compete. Alissa Czisny (WR 11) is out for the season, so the second spot is open.
    France: Open field. Neither of the France's top ranked skaters got top 10 at Worlds.
    Russia: Adelina Sotnikova (WR 9/WC 9) will have to compete; second spot is open as top ranking Leonova did not finish top 10 at Worlds.
    China: Zijun Li (WR 13/WC 7) will have to compete; second spot is open sine Kexin Zhang did not finish in the top 10 at Worlds.

    PAIRS
    Canada: Duhamel/Radford (WR 3/WC 3) will have to compete
    Japan: ???? They only have one pair really not sure if they will be ready for WTT.
    USA: Open. Denney/Coughlin were not at Worlds. Not sure who they would send.
    France: James/Cipres (WR 12/ WC 8) will have to compete
    Russia: Volosozhar/Trankov (WR 1/WC 1) will have to compete
    China: Pang/Tong (WR 5/WC 5) will have to compete

    DANCE:
    Canada: Virtue/Moir (WR 2/WC 2) will have to compete
    Japan: Open, but likely will be the Reeds.
    USA: Davis/White (WR 1 /WC 1) will have to compete
    France: Pechalat/Bourzat (WR 3/WC 6) will have to compete
    Russia: Bobrova/Soloviev (WR 4/WC 3) will have to compete
    China: Open.

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    Allegedly there are rules for the selection of the skaters. Given that Kovtun went to WTT for Russia last year without having been to Senior OR Junior Worlds, I think it's evident that the rules aren't followed.

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    OK, It's the first ranking skaters
    but why didn't V/T compete last Season ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by karne View Post
    Allegedly there are rules for the selection of the skaters. Given that Kovtun went to WTT for Russia last year without having been to Senior OR Junior Worlds, I think it's evident that the rules aren't followed.
    Not to mention Gracie Gold who at that point had competed at two (junior) international competitions only

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    Quote Originally Posted by karne View Post
    Allegedly there are rules for the selection of the skaters. Given that Kovtun went to WTT for Russia last year without having been to Senior OR Junior Worlds, I think it's evident that the rules aren't followed.
    But there's no rule saying someone had to go to Worlds to participate. The rule is geared toward top ranking skaters who were at Worlds. Basically if you are one of the top two ranking skaters and you placed top 10 at Worlds you have to compete.

    So in the case of Russia, neither of the two top ranking skaters (Gachinski or Voronov) were top 10 at Worlds so they were free to send Kovtun instead.


    Quote Originally Posted by silverlake22 View Post
    Not to mention Gracie Gold who at that point had competed at two (junior) international competitions only
    Similar situation. The top two ranked skaters were Alissa and Ashley. But Alissa did not finish in the top 10 and had the option to opt out. (Also there were allowances for injury.) And IIRC the spot was offered to others but was refused, hence the decision to send Gracie.

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    So in summary:

    * - Denotes that they must go (or be penalized in some fashion)

    Canada
    Mens: Chan*, Reynolds*
    Ladies: Osmond*, Lacoste
    Pairs: Duhamel/Radford*
    Ice Dance: Davis & White*

    Japan
    Mens: Hanyu*, Takahashi*
    Ladies: Asada*, Murakami (maybe Suzuki)
    Pairs: ??? (Narumi & Kihara may not be ready by then)
    Dance: Reed & Reed

    USA
    Mens: Aaron, Miner (maybe Abbott)
    Ladies: Wagner*, Gold
    Pairs: Castelli & Shnapir (maybe Scimeca & Knierim)
    Ice Dance: Virtue/Moir*

    France
    Mens: Joubert*, Amodio
    Ladies: Meite, Gilleron-Gorry
    Pairs: James & Cipres*
    Ice Dance: Pechalat & Bourzat*

    Russia
    Men: Menshov, Kovtun (maybe Gachniski)
    Ladies: Sotnikova*, Lipnitskaia (maybe Leonova)
    Pairs: Volosozhar & Trankov*
    Dance: Bobrova & Soloviev*

    China
    Mens: Song, Yan
    Ladies: Li*, Zhang
    Pairs: Pang & Tong*
    Dance: Yu & Wang

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    But didn't Hanyu withdraw last year, and it was okay?

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    what penalty did V/T got last season ?
    I thought the penalty was you can skip but not attend any ice shows

    because I doubt V/T will be there again
    I think Stolbova/Klimov will go as mentioned in some previous articles

    I hope Lipnitskaya goes, Im tired of Leonova falling on every jump
    I dont want to see Leonova there again

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    Quote Originally Posted by draqq View Post
    So in summary:

    * - Denotes that they must go (or be penalized in some fashion)

    Canada
    Mens: Chan*, Reynolds*
    Ladies: Osmond*, Lacoste
    Pairs: Duhamel/Radford*
    Ice Dance: Davis & White*

    Japan
    Mens: Hanyu*, Takahashi*
    Ladies: Asada*, Murakami (maybe Suzuki)
    Pairs: ??? (Narumi & Kihara may not be ready by then)
    Dance: Reed & Reed

    USA
    Mens: Aaron, Miner (maybe Abbott)
    Ladies: Wagner*, Gold
    Pairs: Castelli & Shnapir (maybe Scimeca & Knierim)
    Ice Dance: Virtue/Moir*

    France
    Mens: Joubert*, Amodio
    Ladies: Meite, Gilleron-Gorry
    Pairs: James & Cipres*
    Ice Dance: Pechalat & Bourzat*

    Russia
    Men: Menshov, Kovtun (maybe Gachniski)
    Ladies: Sotnikova*, Lipnitskaia (maybe Leonova)
    Pairs: Volosozhar & Trankov*
    Dance: Bobrova & Soloviev*

    China
    Mens: Song, Yan
    Ladies: Li*, Zhang
    Pairs: Pang & Tong*
    Dance: Yu & Wang
    You need to swap D&W with V&M.

    If I were Skate Canada, I would definitely send Daleman or even Chartrand (if they are age elilgible) before sending Lacoste. Barring injuries, the second entries for dance and pairs are no brainers.

    For US, Aaron and Gold seem to be the top picks, but for the second US man, I prefer Farris since he just won Jr Worlds. This will give him experience the way it gave Gold last year at the same event.

    Sending Menshov and Kotvun seem like a smart choice - compensation for Menshov and redemption for Kotvun. Lip is not eligible for Worlds this season - is she eligible for this? In any event I think the natural choice would be Sot and Tuk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcolee925 View Post

    Sending Menshov and Kotvun seem like a smart choice - compensation for Menshov and redemption for Kotvun. Lip is not eligible for Worlds this season - is she eligible for this? In any event I think the natural choice would be Sot and Tuk.
    Lipnitskaya is still 14 years old so probably not

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