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Gracie got the same PCS at Worlds, nearly, as she got at US Nationals, with a program that was not as well skated as at Nationals. She earned her second place spot at Nationals, and her trip to Worlds. Furthermore, she finished 6th in her Worlds debut and helped Ashley get those 3 spots for Olympics, one of which Christina may be lucky enough to earn.
Gracie's 5th place finish in the Worlds LP, PCS highlighted. Note that again, she beat Ashley in the LP:
Gracie GOLD USA 125.40 65.22 60.18 7.57 7.25 7.61 7.57 7.61 0.00 #13
Gracie's winning US Nat's LP scores
Free Skate Score Executed Elements Factored Program Components Deductions
132.49 71.14 61.35 0.00
Comparing Kovtun to Gracie is simply not warranted, particularly when you're trying to make a case for Gao, whose last performance as a junior was last year's Junior Worlds, at which she finished 7th.
a date that was exactly the same as Gracie's last junior competition and a competition in which Gracie placed 2nd.
So I see no comparison whatsoever between Kovtun, who finished behind Menshov and Voronov at Russian Nationals & bombed at Worlds, and Gracie, who finished ahead of Mirai, Agnes & Christina at US Nationals, and beat Ashley in the LP, and who finished a very respectable sixth at Worlds in a very competitive field.
Gracie did not get any outstanding favors. She did not get a Skate America berth, for example. Christina did.
In fact, in a world where USFS might have been trying to give Gracie advantages, she would have gotten a 2nd JGP assignment in the 2011 2012 season rather than being given her only chance at the very last JGP so there was no way she could earn at JGPF slot.
So no, I don't see any similarity at all between the Russian fed's treatment of Kovtun & USFSA and Gracie.
Last edited by dorispulaski; 03-20-2013 at 08:11 PM.
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April 11th, 2013(THU)
Opening Ceremony 14:35〜
Dance (Short Dance) 15:15〜
Men's short 16:35〜
Ladies Short 18:40〜
April 12th, 2013(FRI)
Dance(Free Dance) 17:25〜
Men's Free 19:00〜
April 13th, 2013(SAT)
Ladies Free 16:50〜
April 14th, 2013(SUN)
If I remember correctly, Gracie only got the WTT nod last year due to Czisny's withdrawal.
Urgh. Edited my post. Angry at life right now and it's just a stream of consciousness. Anyways. Some skaters get noticed by and win the Federations over by a small number of good competition results, and have the support of the Fed thereafter it seems, usually getting the benefit of the doubt even when it may not be warranted. Others do not. They can prove themselves internationally and do very well and still not get the same kind of attention, support, or opportunities from the Federations. Ultimately, if these individuals can do very, very well for themselves internationally, the Fed will take notice, but that still doesn't mean they will be judged as generously as others, or bad competition results won't be overlooked like it will for others, or that they will be assigned to events they arguably deserve more than others on the basis of the competitive results (internationally, recently, or as a whole).
Basically, let's just say I won't be surprised if Gao gets passed for an Olympic spot by someone skating a lot sloppier, Farris gets only 1 GP, and Brown returns to the JGP.
As for Kovtun, he will either deliver at the chances he's given or he won't, if he does, he can earn his hype and opportunities like Gold has and the situation becomes a little more understandable. If not, well, it might take awhile but if he consistently underperforms, the Fed will eventually turn its attention elsewhere, though not necessarily to the person who most deserves it.
thanks also next time he should really think and promote/give experience also to Julia Lipnitskaya.
Originally Posted by Kutien
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