I think he/she is either joking or being sarcastic, or just try to stir things a bit up for further discussion (not in a good way...). Let's just ignore this comments
That is a technically superb performance, but it's not an artistically superb performance. Most of the choreographic is basic skating with two-footed skating, simple one-foot glides, 3-turns and mohawks and pumping counter-clockwise around the rink. The only time he exhibits footwork is, well, during his footwork. As for expression, he has moments of expression but not while he's actually skating -- only while he's at standstills. A clean, well-performed skate from one of the favourites, especially if they skate last, will often get 6.0's regardless of how good the actual program content is.
I don't take away from how technically good that performance was (save for the spins which were a bit sloppy and travelling), but for comparison, Plushenko's FS at the beginning of last year was light years ahead of his Nijinsky program in terms of artistry and content.
Look back to back at these two LPs, what prove do you need?
I don't stir anything, just said different opinion and supported with the fact. I still belive Yagudin didn't reach the pick with MITIM, his skating in 2002 was very good, but not mature . Same as Chan now.
Did you know some people never watch Plushenko after 2002, when Yagudin retired.
These two videos show very good comparison and how skating can mature with age.
Yagudin 2002
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6zeIUH3rHg
Plushenko 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4kbg0QV8XQ&feature=youtu.be
Plushenko and Yagudin both are still skating today, and videos are good prove how their skating matured during pastt 10 year.
Even better comparison on these two videos, same day same year, November 2012
Plushenko 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC1a1N3uUH8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufh-ollbPMQ
Yagudin 2012, he skated only one program
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiAXszUiXyM
These are just the the most watched videos now. Were more others. In addition, there are a lot of small, 3- 4-5000 viewers. I think that some people can be wrong...
So you think that the more there is youtube viewers, the more program has artistry and content? In that case Plushenko's Sex Bomb would have the greatest artistry with almost 1 million viewers.
That is a technically superb performance, but it's not an artistically superb performance. Most of the choreographic is basic skating with two-footed skating, simple one-foot glides, 3-turns and mohawks and pumping counter-clockwise around the rink. The only time he exhibits footwork is, well, during his footwork. As for expression, he has moments of expression but not while he's actually skating -- only while he's at standstills. A clean, well-performed skate from one of the favourites, especially if they skate last, will often get 6.0's regardless of how good the actual program content is.
I don't take away from how technically good that performance was (save for the spins which were a bit sloppy and travelling), but for comparison, Plushenko's FS at the beginning of last year was light years ahead of his Nijinsky program in terms of artistry and content.
So you think that the more there is youtube viewers, the more program has artistry and content? In that case Plushenko's Sex Bomb would have the greatest artistry with almost 1 million viewers.
Choreography is not artistry.
I suppose you think a skater methodically railing off a series of jumps and then stopping to have a melodramatic moment is artistry, then?
Oh geez. Sorry, but when you make statements like that, I can't take you seriously.
I suppose you think a skater methodically railing off a series of jumps and then stopping to have a melodramatic moment is artistry, then?
Oh geez. Sorry, but when you make statements like that, I can't take you seriously.
this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbjJufbHXpE on TEB with ABC commentary!!!!The example of Plushenko's Nijinsky given - I haven't looked but I suspect it's the eleven 6.0 RN one, yes? - is not the best example. At that point in the season the program had been watered down almost beyond recognition because Plushenko was in excrutiating pain. The best versions of Nijinsky to watch are the ones from TEB that season, and also (and I will find the link when I have time) the original version that he performed in a show prior to the season's commencement.
PS: You expect me to take a poster who openly calls themselves "CanadianSkaterGuy" seriously?
Plushenko 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC1a1N3uUH8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufh-ollbPMQ
Yagudin 2012, he skated only one program
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiAXszUiXyM
Yes that's true. For example Mishin, he really believes that. He is an engineer and professor at the University of St. Petersburg but he thinks.
Rudolf Zagainov, an infamous sports psychologist. His wife an Olympic champion cyclist killed herself, and the police launched an investigation, the basic version - incitement to suicide"
http://www.kp.ru/daily/23929/69653/
I suppose you think a skater methodically railing off a series of jumps and then stopping to have a melodramatic moment is artistry, then?
Oh geez. Sorry, but when you make statements like that, I can't take you seriously.
Yes. He is. In 2011 Mishin didn't want to go a competition, because he heard, Makarova and Zagainov will be there together. So probably Zagainov wasn't guilty.Hasn't Makarova worked with him since that?
I don't want revenge, but for me Chan isn't artistry. No emotion, no passion, just beautiful slipping on the ice. Sorry. One question: If Patrick is so amazing, so artistic, so so so best, why people don't like to watch his videos on Youtube?..... So many uneducated, blind people who can't see the real greatness....
Yes, I do. And I ask again: If Patrick is so amazing, so artistic, so so so best, why people don't like to watch his videos on Youtube?Patrick is not as artistic as Jeremy Abbott. But he is more artistic than many top skaters including Plushenko ( I don't want revenge, either). Has Plushenko ever been compared with John Curry - the legendary British artistic skater who combined ballet and modern dance with figure skating? Well, Patrick had, by one of the euro sport commentator. Patrick was said a bit touch of John Curry but much more athletic.:yes: And you call that "isn't artistry"?
Yes, I do.
Patrick is not as artistic as Jeremy Abbott. But he is more artistic than many top skaters including Plushenko ( I don't want revenge, either). Has Plushenko ever been compared with John Curry - the legendary British artistic skater who combined ballet and modern dance with figure skating? Well, Patrick had, by one of the euro sport commentator. Patrick was said to have a bit touch of John Curry but much more athletic.:yes: And you call that "isn't artistry"?