03-26-2013, 07:45 PM
There's something so inspiring about Plushy's endurance that I really hope he wins Russian Nationals and makes it to Sochi with a great "credit rating." My gold-medal dream is Daisuke, but I want to see Plushy wow the crowd, and all of us millions of (tape-delay) viewers across the globe. The guy's already gone down in history, but a little more history would be pretty awesome, yes?
03-26-2013, 10:39 PM
I think he would be making some history just by showing up. Most male skaters are lucky to get to 2 Olympics, but 4 would be amazing. I don't think he'll get a medal, but who knows with him. I would love for him to get a better choreographed program because he'll need to face off against guys who now match his technical content.
03-26-2013, 11:48 PM
Plushenko is right, it is ridiculous that Chan won and everyone knows it. Watch out for SP over scoring, this is the result. It is a pretty neat trick the judges have come up with. It is also one of the reasons skating is losing it's audience. Too many deserving skaters have gotten the shaft, people get frustrated with it and stop watching. This whole judging/scoring system needs an overhaul.
03-27-2013, 02:02 AM
Can we as even semi rational people look at this situation like Kostner and many of her medals and Squared and even Mao, Lambiel and Buttle. Can all these trained judges under COP be wrong? Were they all bribed? Can you know see the parameters onthes coring how while you missed some things you picked it up in other areas. So the theory is all thejudges are biased "idiots"? Come on folks - where is the evidence. Denis ten skate his best but over all it wasn't enogh and the quality of his skating is ho hum. Maybe we are saying no gold should have been given? But then we can say that for many medals probably.
03-27-2013, 05:57 AM
Chan's score is inflated (in many people's opinion) does not mean other skaters marks (Kostner, Mao, V/T for some competitions) are not inflated. Nobody argue that. Why Chan is spot on star for the argument: 1. this post is all about Plushenko's opinion on Chan's winning; 2. Chan won the GM; 3. his LP performance is just a disaster. Chan's performance probably deserves THIS GM in IJS book. But this win is just plain ugly. The LP is just too messy to let anybody proudly point out "that is the winner". So it leads to the argument whether the system is terribly flawed and need to be modified to avoid this from happening again.
Originally Posted by Skater Boy
As for the over score part, personally I really doubt with this particular performance Chan should get the PE and IN marks that high. So many mistakes and PE 8.6, really? And as messy as that the IN is 8.96, really?
TO CanadianSkaterGuy, why do you think Plushenko will take it as granted if he only finished 4th or 5th at RN and head to Olympics? If Plushenko is healthy enough, he will not allow himself making so many mistakes in a program so that he will end it up in lower placement. Then the question will be do you really think a clean Plushenko will not beat other RUSSIAN skaters in RN? Highly doubted. But I think all the speculations are meaningless since even Plushenko himself does not know whether his back can handle all these loads.
03-27-2013, 05:10 PM
If you look at history, Plushenko attended all three Olympics as the rightful Russian National Champion. Even in 2002 when he had injury, he still competed to earn his spot. He only skipped RN in 2003 because a serious flu, but he earned his World spot as the Euro Champion. Plushenko has never been gifted a ticket to Olympic or Worlds in his whole career, unlike his other compatriots in the past.
Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy
And if other skaters have been gifted with a spot before, why cannot Plushenko, who is apparently at a different level? Why he should be held at a much higher standard compared with the rest of the Russian athletes?
03-27-2013, 05:18 PM
I can't imagine plushenko 4th or 5th at a Russian nationals! That would be a plushenko with no quad or 3a attempts! But then maybe that would be enough? Surely Enough to place top 3 to go to euros and then maybe quad and 3a then place first there among Russian men. Like he could fall on every 3a and quad attempt and still probably win a Russian nationals. He couldn't do singles and win- no way- it's not so bad that plushenko could do singles or doubles.
There is no reason for plushenko to get a gift because his competition is such that he could win against he best of his home country in any conceivable condition.
03-27-2013, 06:08 PM
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