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    News Chan: I truly believe I deserved to win

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/...served-to-win/

    I really don't like the attitude that PChan has in this article...maybe the tone was not conveyed well in writing, but there's a lot of arrogance, especially in that last part: saying how the other skaters didn't "capitalize" on his mistakes. "And I'm sure [Denis] is kicking himself today"? Um. No. Patrick.

    Then again, he hasn't had the best quotes in the past through the media, I just wish he stops giving interviews like this...

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    Well I'll play devil's advocate here. I actually felt sorry for Patrick when all the criticism started coming in. And he's right - there were two programs, not just one, and he skated the short program extremely well. He's also right that the other contenders did not take advantage of his mistakes! Denis Ten double/doubled what should have been a triple/triple - and that might have made the difference.

    Does anybody honestly think the guy is going to say - "gee, I shouldn't have won. Give my medal to someone else?" I didn't find his comments arrogant - just a guy defending himself.

    But what Patrick needs to do now is go out and skate lights out every time he's on the ice. That will shut people up.

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    The comment there is also a short program would have made sense if the other guy had done a really weak short. However Ten also skated a wonderful short program, in addition to a long program way better than Chan, and thus obviously should have beaten him. The there is also a short program comment only applies to guys like Fernandez and Hanyu who also clearly should have beaten Chan in the LP (but didnt, but proof Chan should not have had the LP score to stay ahead of Ten overall as a LP score even below Fernandez would not have done that) but who Chan deserved to finish above due to the SP. While Chan`s LP was overscored by atleast 10 points, his SP while outstanding should also have been in roughly the 95 area, not nearly 100.

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    I think Chan is just not smart enough. What he should have said is "Denis is a wonderful skater, and he also deserves to win.... Javier delivered two wonderful programs....blahblahblah..."

    But somehow, I start to like Chan more because of his honesty.

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    Just because you're a world-class skater and quick on your feet doesn't mean you're a world-class interview and quick-witted. I think Patrick said what he felt - and more power to him. BUT - IMO Patrick clearly, clearly outclassed the rest of the field with his short program. Again, whether you like the guy or not.....he won! Everybody has a chance at him next year! I'm hoping Patrick uses this as a wake-up call, gets himself a skating coach again and goes back to the basics.

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    I personally thought he was tight in the SP and had to fight for the jumps to land them cleanly. So I don't think he outclassed Dennis in the SP, although Chan still got great +GOE for those jumps that were clean but weren't his best.

    It's just frustrating that the COP haven't given us championship performances that we are going to look back on years from now. Four major errors is too many and IMO you cannot do everything else well enough to compensate for those mistakes. I blame the judging system solely for this; the judges' hands are tied and they have to mark what they see, and Patrick just skates the best he can.

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    The judges are +3 happy in GOEs for Chan. His spins all get that, you would think he is a way better spinner than Lambiel, when in fact he is a weaker one. His jumps that even look shaky or tired get that, his last double axel in the Worlds LP which he barely hung onto even got some, LOL! With scoring like that no wonder he has a 6 fall cushion on the field.

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    Well Pangtongfan, you've spread your dislike of allthingsPatrickChan in any and every thread with his name in it. Must be tiring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noskates View Post
    Just because you're a world-class skater and quick on your feet doesn't mean you're a world-class interview and quick-witted. I think Patrick said what he felt - and more power to him. BUT - IMO Patrick clearly, clearly outclassed the rest of the field with his short program. Again, whether you like the guy or not.....he won! Everybody has a chance at him next year! I'm hoping Patrick uses this as a wake-up call, gets himself a skating coach again and goes back to the basics.
    No, he didn't win. Stupid juding system and corrupt judges gave it to him. Patrick is the most overscored skater of recent history. He's also a complete i****, and said that his opponents, like Denis, made the same amount of mistakes as him. Not to mention the bad things he used to say about Plushenko and Joubert. "Quad isn't everything", he used to say. Now, he can only rely on his quads, because he falls all the time in everything else. He always give stupid interviews, and feels that he actually deserved his 2 last titles. Deluded or hypocrite?, Seriously, it's not only pangtongfan who hates him, most of the figure skating fans can't stand patrick or his victories anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    I personally thought he was tight in the SP and had to fight for the jumps to land them cleanly. So I don't think he outclassed Dennis in the SP, although Chan still got great +GOE for those jumps that were clean but weren't his best.

    It's just frustrating that the COP haven't given us championship performances that we are going to look back on years from now. Four major errors is too many and IMO you cannot do everything else well enough to compensate for those mistakes. I blame the judging system solely for this; the judges' hands are tied and they have to mark what they see, and Patrick just skates the best he can.
    The problem is not only the COP. When Takahashi makes mistakes, his pcs decrease a lot. He has some of the best interpretation and coreography of the field, but always scores below Chan. And when Chan makes serious mistakes, he still gets pcs almost in the 90's. It's ridiculous overscoring.

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    his arrogance is taking into a new low
    can't wait for him to have pies handed to his face and
    Yuzuru kicking his sorry falling butt

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    From the article:
    "I would for sure admit that I didn’t skate my best but … Chanflation? I don’t believe in it. I think if they have a problem with it, they should talk to the judges and not blame me. I’m just going out there trying to do my job.

    “If I gave my own marks, I definitely would criticize myself a lot more, but that’s just the perfectionist in me. But I deserved every point that I got, and worked hard for it.’’
    Like many media stories, the most sensationalist quote gets highlighted. But the above shows that Patrick himself is very aware of his mistakes and even rightly said that he would've criticized himself more were he giving himself the marks. Honestly, what would you do in his situation? There's nothing he can do to prevent the judges from giving him high marks, and he seemed as surprised as anyone in the kiss and cry when his scores came up.

    Personally, I just don't think that the men's competition was particularly noteworthy this year, and pretty much no one was completely clean - including Denis, who had a wonderful skate but doubled a few triples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victura View Post
    Personally, I just don't think that the men's competition was particularly noteworthy this year, and pretty much no one was completely clean - including Denis, who had a wonderful skate but doubled a few triples.
    One triple.

    Denis did 4T, 3A+3T, 3A, 3Lz+2T+2T, 2F+2T, 3S, 3Lo, and 2A, after doing 3T, 3A, and 3F+3T in the short, with positive GOE on all 20 elements in both programs combined, jumps and non-jump elements alike.

    Patrick fell twice (3Lz and 3A), messed up his 3F combo (-2 GOEs across the board), and doubled his second Lutz.

    Patrick's response, according to this article:

    I don’t think I made more (mistakes) than Denis did...

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    That 2F+2T was supposed to be 3F+3T, actually. So if we take the average of "one" and "a few", we have a correct answer. ^_^

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    *facepalm*

    Someone get Patrick to a crash course in "sometimes, it's really better to keep quiet and let people think you're arrogant, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

    I'm sure he was just answering questions on his feet...but he really would be better off not saying these sorts of things. They don't help him any.

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