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    News Polina Shelepen to compete for Israel

    MOSCOW, March 23 (R-Sport) – Promising Russian figure skater Polina Shelepen is to compete for Israel, her coach Svetlana Sokolovskaya told R-Sport on Saturday.

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    How does getting an passport qualify you to compete for a country? Is she and her family going to live there? Do you know what her roots there are?

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    she probably has Israeli roots because for Israeli repatriation/citizenship you need to have lineage of Israeli ancestry

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    Good for her

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icey View Post
    How does getting an passport qualify you to compete for a country? Is she and her family going to live there? Do you know what her roots there are?
    It's that simple. Getting a passport normally qualifies you to compete for a country. Residency is usually not a matter of competing, passport is. There are plenty of skaters competing for other countries who aren't full time residents of the passport country. I assume that she is has Jewish ancestry somewhere in the not-too-distant past. Israel has dispensations for acquiring their citizenship to Jews and particularly those from Russia and other Eastern European countries. She'll still have to meet the Israeli team and skating federation standards; presumably that won't be a problem for her. The only fly in the ointment for ISU competitions is if she needs a release from Russia in order to compete next season, since she competed for Russia internationally in the 2012-2013 season.

    I wouldn't be surprised to hear that this switch had been under consideration for some time.

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    This is a smart move, considering she has a slim chance of competing in Sochi anyway so the earlier she switches the better. Skating for Israel, she will have the opportunity to compete at Worlds and grow through the inevitable good and bad seasons in her career which would not be cut short or diminished due to one bad year or competition. She would have a chance to become a mature skater a la Kostner, Rochette, and other talented skaters from a weak field.

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    Definitely a good move! Competition is so strong in Russia so she'll have such a better chance in Israel.

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    Really a smart move!!!!!

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    Excellent choice. She had no chance of making a major team for Russia ever really. The major teams for Russia for awhile will be battled amongst Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, Radianova, and Lipnitskaya, plus any future skaters who emerge who can compete realistically for a spot against those. The other current ones have no hope. I hope more of the young talented Russians also find a new country to compete for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Excellent choice. She had no chance of making a major team for Russia ever really. The major teams for Russia for awhile will be battled amongst Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, Radianova, and Lipnitskaya, plus any future skaters who emerge who can compete realistically for a spot against those. The other current ones have no hope. I hope more of the young talented Russians also find a new country to compete for.
    all 2018 skaters though but agree mostly these five will just reshuffle in their rankings

    Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, Lipnitskaya, Radionova , Sakhanovich and maybe also Sotskova

    the rest can contend to be B skaters or alternates but if they want a bigger scene they have no choice but to compete for another Fed, there is oil rich Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, neighboring states Belarus and Ukraine.

    maybe Leonova should think about that too ?

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    I think it's too early to say who will be in the mix for Russian ladies in 2018. You never know with injuries, puberty monster, switching representations, motivation or lack thereof, personal or psychological issues (related to skating/competing or otherwise) when you are talking about a time 5 years into the future. It will be interesting to watch, but it's hard to say who will be in the mix for Pyeongchang and who will not. However, I do think this is a good move for Shelepen, she is too talented to have her international career be essentially over at the age of 17. Hopefully the coaching situation will prove to work better now that she is healthy again and not facing such stiff competition.

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    If you have citizenship with the country you are switching to, no release from the former country is required. When was Polina's last international competition in which she competed for Russia? She has to wait 1 year (or is it 2 for singles skaters- I know it is one for pars/ dance- see V/T) from the date of that competition to compete internationally for the new country.

    ETA- I see in the article it is 18 months for singles skaters for Olympics, but 1 year for grand prix. While she won't be able to compete in the Olympics, she could compete at Worlds.

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    This is a great idea that will benefit both Polina and Israel. I don't think she has to live there or train there to skate for Israel.

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    Is it just me, or when a skater switches nationality, their skating deterioates?

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    Good for her!

    I only know Tamar Katz. Are there any competitive skaters in Israel?

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