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    ^ Actually, that's is not unlikely at all. Takahashi and Mura could do in Japan what Chan and Reynolds did in Canada and Suziki could make the podium absent Kim and Kostner.

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    So I'm curious - what do people think of

    Gabrielle Daleman/Kexin Zhang/Lenaelle Gilleron-Gorry?

    I really know so little of any of these young ladies - so I hope you'll pardon me if this seems like a silly question, the answer being blindingly obvious. But any information/comparisons would be vastly appreciated.

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    I have seen Gabrielle Daleman live at Canadian Nationals this year. The first thing I notice was her speed across the ice as she went into her first jumps. She has big jumps, however at Jr. Worlds she appeared to have difficulties with the landings. She would spin-around due to the excess rotational momentum. She didn't seem to have that problem at Nationals, hence I suspect it was just too much excitement at the time. Gabby also has nice lines/positions in her spins. She does not have the big smile and personality like Osmond, and is not at Osmond's level yet. However, she is very promising. There is a reason she won the Silver at Nationals. Here is the CTV video of her Nationals 2013 SP...

    http://youtu.be/Y5i0XRJ_gLc


    I am not familiar enough with the other skaters to comment or compare, so I will leave that to others.

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    Thank you! I'll be really looking forward to seeing more of her at WTT - and it must be such a fun/great experience for her as well - I'm glad she was chosen to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRK View Post
    So I'm curious - what do people think of

    Gabrielle Daleman/Kexin Zhang/Lenaelle Gilleron-Gorry?

    I really know so little of any of these young ladies - so I hope you'll pardon me if this seems like a silly question, the answer being blindingly obvious. But any information/comparisons would be vastly appreciated.
    Gabrielle is Canada's #2 lady, and has an arsenal including 3-3 in the SP and two triple lutzes in the LP. She's a gutsy, feisty skater, but still coming up from junior ranks and needs refinement. Regardless of how she places, this is a huge experience for her.

    Kexin Zhang placed 7th last year at Worlds after great skates. Has a 3-3, but struggled with consistency (I believe she was injured) and was way down (23rd) at the recent Worlds. Hopefully she can bounce back and build towards next season. It's great that Zijun saved two Olympic spots, because she's also a wonderful talent.

    Lenaelle I don't know too much about, but she did win French nationals over Maé Berenice Meité, who went to Worlds and placed a respectable 11th (ahead of Akiko Suzuki, mind you). Also has a 3-3, but otherwise a question mark.

    Unfortunately neither of these 3 girls will get the PCS to make a splash, but if they put strong technical showings and others falter, they might shake things up. They will, of course, be instrumental to how their Teams do as a whole. Daleman in particular will probably need a top 10 finish and a good skate from Osmond to help Canada edge out Russia.

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    Thanks CanadianSkaterGuy, that is really helpful, as it gives me some notion of what to expect. Thinking of it, I wonder about the likelihood of, realistically, given all skate reasonably well - eschewing the two extremes of someone skating a total blinder or having a complete meltdown - any of them beating, say, Mae-Berenice Meite? I know - because you mentioned it - that Lanaelle has already done so this season, but not knowing the details, I wonder if that was a fluke, or something likely to occur again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRK View Post
    Thanks CanadianSkaterGuy, that is really helpful, as it gives me some notion of what to expect. Thinking of it, I wonder about the likelihood of, realistically, given all skate reasonably well - eschewing the two extremes of someone skating a total blinder or having a complete meltdown - any of them beating, say, Mae-Berenice Meite? I know - because you mentioned it - that Lanaelle has already done so this season, but not knowing the details, I wonder if that was a fluke, or something likely to occur again?
    It's hard to say. Mae had a really solid Worlds. Skated a clean SP, and in her FS she landed 5 triples (almost 6, but a shaky flip), including a 2A-3T in the second half. It's a shame she wasn't able to get 2 spots for France, because she really skated just about as well as she can, and had one of the cleanest competitions technically of all the women (even though her skating is stiff and not particularly graceful, I love her athleticism). She certainly justified being sent to Worlds. Hopefully she can follow it up at WTT -- I actually think she can crack the top 6, certainly if she skates the way she did at Worlds (165 points, with PB's in the SP and FS).

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    I stand corrected, Lenaelle actually came 4th at French nationals. Anais Ventard won barely over Meite (just over half a point). And looking at their technical content, Meite is much superior (she fell twice and had UR's though).

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    Gilleron-Gorry in the SP at 2012 JGP Istanbul, where I first remember her from. She has an adult presence on the ice
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7oaU-XOFjI

    Her best scores were from this year's Europeans:

    Sp Segment score: 90.42 OVERALL Score: 143.74
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWNuLe-Qehw
    LP (yes, she made the LP)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGWg8CTJwhY
    Segment score: 90.42 OVERALL Score: 143.74

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    Lenaelle I don't know too much about, but she did win French nationals over Maé Berenice Meité, who went to Worlds and placed a respectable 11th (ahead of Akiko Suzuki, mind you). Also has a 3-3, but otherwise a question mark.
    It doesn't mean so much.
    Miyahara won Suzuki at Nationals. Gabrielle Daleman was ahead Miyahara at JrWorlds.
    Does it mean that Daleman has good chance to win Susuki?
    Of course no.

    Lenaelle was 11th at Euro (7 place SP, 14 place FS, 143.74 total) - very good result for her. Her score at JGP Events this season - 117.03 and 124.53.
    Her problem - not so good FS after better SP.

    I don't wait high results from her.

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    Ladies Season Best

    2 205.45 Mao ASADA
    4 193.99 Adelina SOTNIKOVA
    5 190.63 Ashley WAGNER
    6 190.08 Akiko SUZUKI
    8 188.85 Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA
    9 184.25 Gracie GOLD
    10 183.85 Zijun LI
    14 176.82 Kaetlyn OSMOND
    21 165.03 Mae Berenice MEITE
    39 149.39 Gabrielle DALEMAN
    42 148.34 Kexin ZHANG
    53 143.74 Lenaelle GILLERON-GORRY

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    It doesn't mean so much.
    Miyahara won Suzuki at Nationals. Gabrielle Daleman was ahead Miyahara at JrWorlds.
    Does it mean that Daleman has good chance to win Susuki?
    Of course no.

    Lenaelle was 11th at Euro (7 place SP, 14 place FS, 143.74 total) - very good result for her. Her score at JGP Events this season - 117.03 and 124.53.
    Her problem - not so good FS after better SP.

    I don't wait high results from her.
    Daleman does have a chance to beat Suzuki as do other skaters should Suzuki skate the way she did at Worlds. I doubt Suzuki will though... especially with home ice. I was just pointing out the results... I think we can all agree that Suzuki will likely beat Daleman and Lenaelle G-G.

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    Worlds was the only bad competition for Suzuki this season (two GP silvers, GPF bronze, 4CC silver), and she always seems to skate well in Japan. Suzuki's score at Worlds (164 and change) beats Daleman's JW score by 15 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Worlds was the only bad competition for Suzuki this season (two GP silvers, GPF bronze, 4CC silver), and she always seems to skate well in Japan. Suzuki's score at Worlds (164 and change) beats Daleman's JW score by 15 points.
    Suzuki also finished 4th at the Japanese Nationals too so she's been a bit up and down this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    Ladies Season Best

    2 205.45 Mao ASADA
    4 193.99 Adelina SOTNIKOVA
    5 190.63 Ashley WAGNER
    6 190.08 Akiko SUZUKI
    8 188.85 Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA
    9 184.25 Gracie GOLD
    10 183.85 Zijun LI
    14 176.82 Kaetlyn OSMOND
    21 165.03 Mae Berenice MEITE
    39 149.39 Gabrielle DALEMAN
    42 148.34 Kexin ZHANG
    53 143.74 Lenaelle GILLERON-GORRY
    That's really interesting... Is Gabrielle Daleman's score from a junior competition, though? I'm wondering because - if I've understood correctly? - juniors have fewer elements? So, given she skates similarly, would her score be somewhat higher?

    Re Mae-Berenice - I think it was at TEB (if I recall correctly), that I enjoyed her skating the most. She really seemed to give her all in the free - in Euros & Worlds her skating seemed to me a bit more... tentative, perhaps? As if she weren't letting her personality shine through, quite?

    Re Akiko - Worlds' was just so sad! She has skated that program so delightfully this season at other competitions - I hope she's back to her old self at WTT.

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