That's not enough data for you?
Anyway, it's futile to argue with kids. I'm done with you.
Poor Miki. Lmao.
She should give it up tho. She was overscored and lucky to win 2011 Worlds when Yuna was not in her top form.
Also when someone stumbles and trips out of jumps and gets mostly -2s in GOE for how it was completed that isnt typically landing all those triples. I mean technically a skater could fall on 7 triples and you could say they landed 7 triples by that logic, after all they landed them on their rear ends, but they were still rotated and landed then right.
and as far as i remember I never said stated that every skater was/is overscored, don't try to put words in my mouth, that I never said
as for your example it really doesn't make sense. you clearly seem to have missed the point that was made earlier.
The OP of this thread asked to keep the topic. Lets respect that. It is sad that some posters cant have a discussion without calling other posters names. sad
Back on the topic, done or not, I like Miki and I appreciate her skating. Miki may have not been the most artistic skater, but I feel she has a career that many would be proud of. Two world championship titles (and I don't feel title two should be * because Yuna wasn't at her best or whatever), a world bronze, a 4CC gold and abronze and several GP medals, including a silver the GPF. In addition she's managed top 6 finishes in all six of her World Championship appearances (including top 4 placements at five of them).
She contributed to helping Japan keep three spots for several years (the exception being 2006 when she didn't compete and 2008 when she WD) and that counts for something too.
I loved miki and always thought she was very underrated aside from the jumps which were explosive, her skating skills were lovely and when I saw her live at worlds in 09 I thought that she was actually quite artistic it was just a kind of introverted artistry which didnt come accross until I saw her live and of course that 4s but as much as I would love to see her come back I really dont see it happening..
From an article published after Worlds:
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2.../#.UV81R78TvJwThe feeling here is that Ando is fairly confident she is still one of the top five skaters in the world, and would relish a chance to go after that elusive Olympic medal she does not own.
2The article is one writers opinion, and writers logic is that Ando would be more positive about her chances after seeing Worlds this year simply because she beat Kim to win Worlds 2 years ago and Kim ended up dominating. This however is incredibly flawed considering:
1. Kim skated about 55% as well at Worlds 2 years ago in losing to Ando as she did at Worlds this year. That might even be generous. Furthermore Ando even at her peak of many years ago (probably 2006-2007) was never capable of skating at the level or even has skated at the level Kim showed in London.
2. How is seeing an event that shows the ladies level of skating has risen way back up after the post Olympic low it was at in 2011, something that would further encourage Ando to come back. If anything it would do the reverse.
As for talk about Miki getting the "3rd spot" it seems some people still need to be reminded as many of us in this thread already have done, that JSF themselves have said Miki has to WIN Nationals to make the Games. There is no 3rd spot option for her, due to their qualification format for the Games which is consistent with the one they have used the last few Olympiads, and gave Miki her own spot on the last 2 Olympic teams. She either comes back with a huge boom and wins Nationals, recemeting herself as Japanese #1 over Mao, or she doesnt go to the Games at all.
and I dont buy Ano needs to win Nationals if she shows in Great form early on from this coming Season she will have a chance
Akiko as at the near end of her shelf probably next year she will burnt out ala Leonova.