You did:I didn't say that competition was my reasoning for him not being a podium favourite.
So, when it's about Plu or anyone else, then JO counts and should be "not forgotten". But when it comes to Chan, where he finished the last one with 4 falls, then JO suddenly becomes "not reasoning". Classic lies and double standards from a Chan uber.You forgot the Japan Open, which was recent, where he finished 4th behind Jeff Buttle.
So did Chan. Once again someone got lost in his own trolling.If 2012 Japan Open wasn't a serious competition, then why would he attempt 2 quads and 2 triple axels, and do all of his combos and whatnot? Clearly he was taking it seriously, even if he didn't execute it well.
Medaling in Sochi is a possibility for him, but he will require the top guys to falter. If Chan/Takahashi/Fernandez/Hanyu/Ten/Hanyu go clean, they will all beat him. Plus it would also require a clean performance from him, and as much as one hopes he skates well, I would wager good money that Plushenko will not have a clean program with 2 quads in Sochi... this isn't 2010 anymore and his body isn't the same. But I'd also wager that many of the top guys will have errors too (not as much as Worlds 2013), so he does have an outside shot at the podium, but doesn't really control his own destiny as compared to 2010/2006.
I acknowledge that the Japan Open counts for Chan as a competition (where he performed terribly), but Plushenko's ubers are so quick to say "It's not a serious competition and is a bad example of how his skating is"... had he landed both quads and everything else you can bet these same people would all of a sudden deem it as a great example to use.
Japan Open isn't serious.... Euros he was injured (even when his 3A and 3Z+3T were fine in practice)... I wonder what the story will be should he have another bad performance.
Isolated from all other things the 3A and 3lz 3t for plushenko were fine in practice but what about warm up? Even if it was warm up they were isolated elements. I have no idea if they were even rotated. But if the issue is that he can't do the jumps because of his declining jumping ability or is it the issue that he could do them all together because of the injury to the back which was operated on and a disc replaced. From Russian nationals to Euros short program he was not tested in competition. 3A in practice or warmup was good so he had the jump! But then in short program he fell on the 3A after failing the lutz combo. So either he has the jumps or he doesn't have the jumps. He does and he doesn't!! So why didn't he have the 3A or combo in the SP was it the injury acting up. Not from the warmup but from the practice. Are practice and warm up being used interchangeably? So what is the deal?!?
As for his jumping abilities pre and post surgery, I doubt there is going to be much correlation, and therefore, personally, I do not much engage in such discussions. But I dare say you hadn't noticed?
We have no idea if he will be able to jump at all at this point. But it does feel to me as if you regard a disc that deteriorated so badly that it had to be replaced with an artificial one - scarcely a minor procedure, nor one, I would venture, undertaken lightly - as merely an excuse for "Plushy ubers" to blame his perfomances on. If this is truly the case, then your and my understanding of reality are so disparate, that further discussion is utterly pointless.
At EURO2013 a sharp pain appeared quite suddenly when Plushenko was doing the Luz, and he said in his interview he almost could not feel his leg. That is the back injury bothering, not the declining jumping ability. If he is healthy, he could perform multiple quads in practice. Yana said in Summer in one of the practice session, he performed over 40 perfect quads. So his "declining" jumping ability is purely due to his injury.
I do not understand CSG (or I understand what he is trying to do too well). Here people asking a question: Can Plushenko win? And we all get it from CSG that he could not, but if other top skaters all fell apart, and Plushenko goes clean, he could medal, not gold. It is OK, it is CSG his own opinion. But why continuing "correcting" other people's opinion by trashing Plushenko's skating ability, reducing him to an average skater (probably even worse than average if not for his consistency). Now he claims that Plushenko probably wouldn't go clean even if he is healthy. That is just so nice of him, reducing a great skater to nothing. And even when the topic went peacefully to discuss about other things, he would drag all people's attention back on how average Plushenko is that the only chance he has on podium is all other skaters bombed.
As for whether injury is a cooked "story" to cover up bad performance at Zagreb, what can I say, hahahaha