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    W/P have beautiful FD program this season, and I think they deserved higher PCS than C/B's.

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    FREE DANCE - RESULT & VIDEOS

    1. Madison CHOCK & Evan BATES (USA) - 164.91 Free Dance, 2nd Copy
    2. Kaitlyn WEAVER & Andrew POJE (CAN) - 160.08 Free Dance, 2nd Copy
    3. Ksenia MONKO & Kirill KHALIAVIN (RUS) - 149.27 Free Dance, 2nd Copy
    4. Cathy REED & Chris REED (JPN) - 141.75 Free Dance, 2nd Copy
    5. Pernelle CARRON & Lloyd JONES (FRA) - 138.97 Free Dance
    6. Xiaoyang YU & Chen WANG (CHN) - 113.76 Free Dance

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    Thank you for uploading the videos, Mao88

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    Quote Originally Posted by vera01 View Post
    W/P have beautiful FD program this season, and I think they deserved higher PCS than C/B's.
    and the reason is beautiful thats it ? beauty is subjective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vera01 View Post
    W/P have beautiful FD program this season, and I think they deserved higher PCS than C/B's.
    Agree. I think without her injury they will be even better next season. Love them! They can really move you as skaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    Chock/Bates should win this easily, Weaver/Poje are boring.
    and the reason is boring thats it ? boring is subjective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    W/P having higher PCS than C/B is very questionable here, they should have scored the same in PCS here
    chock bates have really improved look at their edges. anyways C/B solidified as US No.2

    the Shibs will be lucky to be 4th, 3rd spot will be a fight between A/E and H/D next Season
    W/P peaked last year and even an inflated home ice score didn't help them at Worlds.
    Igor has done a great job with Chock/Bates this past season. I expect them to continue to improve next season as well. I don't know why you think A/E just coming out of Jrs. will beat the Shibs next year, that's unlikely IMO as A/E tech skills are not yet that great. The Shibs are also better overall technicians than H/D IMO and should do well in the Finnstep, after the disaster Zoueva gave them this season for the SD, but I hope that Zoueva will give the Shibs some attention this coming season with a good SD and FD, otherwise H/D who are showier skaters might beat them for that Olympic Team spot.

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    C/B were awesome!!! Very smooth, gliding, light and crystal. Like a fairy-tale on the ice. I saw him live first time (didn't like yesterday's SD much though) and might become a fan.

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    I said it before and I will say it again - C/B will be a force to be reckoned with in the next quad. I was thinking about something Aunt Joyce (aka the fabulous Mr Lease) said about ice dance pairings: that one partner is the stem and the other is the flower. Chock is a very eye-catching flower; Bates is quite a dependable stem (with the ability to emote on ice--something that shouldn't be underestimated). I think the problem with her previous pairing with Zuerlin was that they were both flowers (which is probably why Cabaret really worked for them--one of the few pieces I can think of offhand that requires two flowers!).

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    W/P definitely had a much lovelier FD than C/B, but sealed their silver with that fall, and rightfully placed second.

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    I said W/P are done done done, and I'm right. Now, they are beaten regularly by B/S, C/L, C/B, I/K. Don't blame it on the injury, B/S beat the crap out of them in the GP pre-injury.
    I see them dropping further down the rank, rightfully so.
    Don't see anything special about these two.

    C/B are Igor's #1 and Igor's first "potential" team in his solo coaching career. Watch them rise to the top. He will do everything he can do build them up to be US #1 and then World #1. I think in 2 years, they will pass Meryl and Charlie the same way Meryl and Charlie did to the other US #1 team back in the last quad. They are certainly more talented and have more potential than B/S, I/K, C/L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlattFan View Post
    I said W/P are done done done, and I'm right. Now, they are beaten regularly by B/S, C/L, C/B, I/K. Don't blame it on the injury, B/S beat the crap out of them in the GP pre-injury.
    At Worlds, W/P beat C/B and comfortably beat I/K. At Skate America B/S won over W/P by 2.5 points, but lost the SD to W/P. At Cup of China, yet again W/P were leading B/S after the SD, but lost the FD and the silver medal by 0.5 points (a level 2 CoSp and a mistake on the twizzle cost them silver). That's hardly B/S "beating the crap" out of W/P.

    I don't think they're done, but they've put out some really poor performances this season, and then had the injury to boot. IMO, with a good summer and a great program they're still a medal threat, but B/S will likely get bronze over P/B, C/L, W/P with the home ice advantage in Sochi. No way that there won't be a European team on the podium, even if W/P or even C/B deserve it.

    W/P really need to increase their difficulty. They're clearly scoring the PCS points to stay ahead of other teams (and while others find them boring, I find them lovely to watch, personally -- and no, not because I'm Canadian, lol). But to push for the podium, they can't afford level 2's or mistakes on the twizzles, and have to have a BV that at least matches C/L, B/S, P/B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlattFan View Post
    I said W/P are done done done, and I'm right. Now, they are beaten regularly by B/S, C/L, C/B, I/K. Don't blame it on the injury, B/S beat the crap out of them in the GP pre-injury.
    I see them dropping further down the rank, rightfully so.
    Don't see anything special about these two.

    C/B are Igor's #1 and Igor's first "potential" team in his solo coaching career. Watch them rise to the top. He will do everything he can do build them up to be US #1 and then World #1. I think in 2 years, they will pass Meryl and Charlie the same way Meryl and Charlie did to the other US #1 team back in the last quad. They are certainly more talented and have more potential than B/S, I/K, C/L.
    I don't think C/B will have a chance to pass Meryl and Charlie, as I bet Meryl and Charlie will retire after the Olympics (after likely winning gold).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    At Worlds, W/P beat C/B and comfortably beat I/K. At Skate America B/S won over W/P by 2.5 points, but lost the SD to W/P. At Cup of China, yet again W/P were leading B/S after the SD, but lost the FD and the silver medal by 0.5 points (a level 2 CoSp and a mistake on the twizzle cost them silver). That's hardly B/S "beating the crap" out of W/P. :rolleye.
    Worlds was on HOME ICE, and that is what boosted W/P in the standings there. But C/B wasn't far behind, and they have been improving with every competition. They've been together only a year and a half, and they have made tremendous strides this season.

    D/W have not said they are retiring after Sochi. It is possible that they will stay til 2016, when Worlds may be in the US. I think we will see C/B gradually closing the gap with D/W during that period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Worlds was on HOME ICE, and that is what boosted W/P in the standings there. But C/B wasn't far behind, and they have been improving with every competition. They've been together only a year and a half, and they have made tremendous strides this season.
    I don't disagree with C/B's improvement, but W/P surely would have won if they didn't err on the twizzles in the SD or fall in their FD. C/B deserved their win, because they were cleaner and had greater difficulty, but W/P performed better. As for Worlds being on home ice as boosting them, they had worse results than the previous years, and their FD scored less than their FD in Nice (non-home ice) in 2012. Their PCS was behind C/L in both segments, even though in Nice they were ahead of them in PCS in both segments. I guess it's futile though to ever suggest that results achieved on home ice aren't anything but inflated especially in something as subjective as ice dance.

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