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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    I agree with Tonto. This team thing has the potential to become the skating event of the Games for the television viewers. No one has ever heard of Ashley Wagner or Gracie Gold, but...USA! USA! USA!

    In addition to the ISU I think the IOC has expectations that athletes will participate. Plus, who wouldn't want to skate their fool head off at the Olympics Games if given the chance?

    Sometimes there are a few athletes in both the Winter and Summer Games who decline to be part of the relays because they want to save themselves for their individual events. They end up looking unpatriotic and selfish.

    As for the possibility of injury in the team competition -- Menshov notwithstanding, you are more likely get injured in practice or to catch a cold on the day before your event. This is the Olympics! No time to get timid and scared of what might happen.
    That's the spirit! For most, the Olympic Games are a once-in-a-lifetime experience! Make the most of it! Who wouldn't want to skate for team glory and an Olympic Gold Medal? As for the possibility of getting hurt... that can happen any time to any person. It's part of being an athlete.

    I with there were ways to have even more teams participate.

    Good point on the relay analogy. What a tragedy it would be for a favorite to skip the team event, watch his team win gold without him (or face speculation that his absence cost them the gold) and then splat miserably during the short program. There's a nice Olympic memory to carry the rest of your life.

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    I just have one question I want answered by the ISU.

    Let's talk about the situation Russia finds themselves in with the men. (I'm using them as an example.) Russia picks Menshov. Now, because they only have one man, Menshov HAS to do the team event AND the singles. In the long program of the team event, he slips forward off a triple Axel and dislocates his shoulder/breaks something (vis a vis WTT13).

    Can Russia replace him for the singles, or is it a case of "too bad, so sad"? (Knowing the ISU, I'd be willing to bet it's the latter...) Has it been mentioned in any of the announcements for the team events? The ISU can't just stick their head in the sand and say "Oh, it won't happen". Because it CAN.

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    ^^^

    In that event, wouldn't Russia be able to have the alternate skate? I wonder what the timeframe is for enrolling alternates?

    These are good questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowflake View Post
    Spot on! -The olympics is here... what to watch...? only figure skating... oh well at least it's some sort of a sport I bet the ratings will be sky high
    This could really help ice dancers and, in the U.S., Charlie and Meryl especially. People hardly know that there is such a sport as ice dancing, and would dismiss it with a smirk if they did. But this way, like Snowflake says, a huge audience will be watching just because there is nothing else on and the skating event will benefit from a lot of the general Olympics hype.

    Plus, here will be ice dancers holding up their end of things, earning points for the team victory -- even, in the case of the U.S., leading the charge!

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    A bit late as usual, but here are my impressions/thoughts after watching the 3rd World Team Trophy live. Will post a little by little as usual.

    Day 1: Thu Apr 11th, from 14:35 local time

    -14:35~ Opening Ceremony

    First of all, I was so surprised to see such a packed arena (seats approx. 80% occupied already at the opening ceremony!) in spite of Thursday afternoon. At 2nd WTT last year, Day 1 was only half-occupied until Ladies Short was to start after 18:00. Talked with my husband it was probably because of Mao to compete this time.
    No blanket no gloves needed. Inside the arena was very warm, especially where we sat, literally being 'stucked' to the ceiling. However, guessed it must be a bit hard for skaters to breathe properly during perofrmances, we concerned about it for Day 2 and 3 when they had to skate their Free...

    -15:15~ Short Dance

    The Reeds: Was great! Chris did not miss twizzels. Been a while to see them skate cleanly. The audience supported them with cheers and claps throughout. Good for them! I was a bit (pleasantly) surprised they beat the French team, though.

    Chock/Bates: First time to see them skate live and loved them! Prior to their skatnig, Madison looked so tiny besides tall and well-built Evan. But once they started, she did not look like that at all! because she could skate 'big' and project quite well.

    Carron/Jones: Loved their program! Very fun, lots of interesting choreos throughout. This team, especially Lloyd improved a lot under Mr Shpilband, didn't they?

    Weaver/Poje: Shame they missed the twizzles...Beautiful music (all from 'The Sound of Music!) and so beautiful on the ice. Audience just loved them. Seems Andrew has lots of Japanese ladies fans, including myself. During 5min warm-up, I kept talking to my hubby that Andrew was such a great ice dancer with great skating skills, stood out on the ice, blah blah blah, then he snapped back at me; 'Are you talking about his skating itself or including his apprearance?'

    Overall, while the audience was very appreciative and supportive with claps to every teams during SD, a bit too much well-behaved, quiet, and 'less enthusiastically', compared to last year I thought. One reason was because of no participations of top ice dancers, especially Meryl/Charlie and Nathalie/Fabian (they normally get HUGE love from the audience whenever they compete in Japan!), but another reason was the majority of audience that night probably were only interested in Singles, more precisely in Ladies, and some of them were just interested in Mao I guess...

    (cont'd)

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    -16:35~ Mens SP

    Mens SP was the comp of Day 1 that my husband and I were looking forward to seeing the most. Specifically Yan, Aaron, Joubert, and Daisuke for me, of course ^^.

    Very glad to see Maxim, under Team Tarasova, did improve a lot since last WTT. But please, he is not Alexei. I hope Madamme Tarasova will find the better/different music and its choreo which suit Maxim well and showcase HIS OWN skating next season.

    We l~~~oved the speed of Han and Max!!! My jaws were like by their speed going into jumps, its distance and heights! Max needs a bigger rink. No joke. Max might be crashing into the board, and Han might be flying over the fence, I feared!

    Sorry to say but Jeremy's SP was a bit of a letdown to me, compared to last season's great SP. A skater as great as Jeremy doesn't need that kind of music at all. He doesn't have to channel a spy...could do so much better and so much more with different music and choreos than this one.

    During 6-min warm of the 2nd group, Brian and Dai got the loudest cheers from the audience! And hundreds of yellow towels which say 'D1sk' all over the arena. Though Brian (looked to me) skated a little heavier than his usual, got the standing ovations and lots of flowers/stuffed animals after his almost clean SP. And sighs of relief by many, I heard I thought, after Dai's decent enough SP with no falls, cause everyone knew he was struggling with 3A and 4T all season due to having to deal with his new blades and boots.

    However, The Skater of the Night who stole the show was Menshov! Perfect SP. We both were very happy for him, because we rooted for him the most prior to the comp. He got lots of applause and claps from the audience, but not so much love from judges I guess...

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    Thanks, deedee1. Great report. I really like these first-hand impressions from the arena.

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    Thanks deedee1 for the great reports!

    (Also at your husband's quip. Didn't he get a bit jealous last year about Daisuke? Hehe...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    I do think that there is a reason why Patrick, however unfairly, has become a lighting rod for people who don't like the IJS and the programs and results that it produces.

    Patrick is the quintessential CoP skater. I don't know why others haven't copied his style -- perhaps they lack the blade to ice skills to do so. Under 6.0 it was straightforward: "stand up on your jumps and look pretty." Now -- well, it's still straightforward: "get in the revolutions on your jumps and keep your feet busy in between." Patrick is the all-time "get in your revolutions and keep your feet busy" champion. If you like "land your jumps and look pretty" better, then naturally Patrick is the number one target for what is wrong with figure skating these days.

    A good contrast is Yuna Kim. At worlds, she skated two great 6.0 programs. She landed her jumps and looked pretty. Luckily for her she also collected a bunch of CoP points. No one is complaining that Kim is overscored, Kimflation, results like this are killing the sport, etc.
    Wow. I couldn't have said it better myself.



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    Thanks so much deedee1

    First hand reports are just the best!

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    Thank you deedee!

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    thank you deedee, cant wait for your next reports

    why there is an "1" in d1sk flags? I want a flag like this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald View Post
    Wow. I couldn't have said it better myself.



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    Congrats on your 200th post and I T A - well put Mathman.

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    I just thought of something the next WTT will be hosted by the japanese federation and I will they be still be able to draw a big audience with out any of their top stars for Team Japan? No Mao, Akiko, Kanako, Daisuke etc..

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