In her post-skate NBC interview at the World championship, Wagner was asked what she needed to do to take the "next step" after her consecutive just-OTP finishes and her response was a consistent 3-3 next season so she's "mentally prepared" by the time Nats and Olys roll around. Again, is this something she can not only get comfortable with, but nail each time without any calls? There's definitely no harm in trying at the GPs at least, though.
She knows what needs to be done - question is, what is the best plan of attack?
I say go for the 3-3 in the SP during all pre-season and GP comps and see what happens. If she keeps getting called on it, perhaps it's not worth the risk. If she can get it clean & consistent, it's that many more points in her back pocket. (I think this past season is when she should have really gone for it, but I digress)
For the FS, how about ditching the 2A/3T and doing another 3-3 instead? How would that work out points-wise? Or maybe the SP is where to go for the 3-3 since she's already scoring high 120s in the FS without any hard jumps anyway.
This is the sort of stuff Team Wagner will need to sort out - and I want to see what you guys think her best option(s) is(are) at this point.
Skating is art, if you let it be.
She needs 3-3 for the SP, doesn't need it for the LP.
What she needs in the LP is beautiful choreography, transitions, and 5 jumping passes in the second half of the program, with all of the combo slots filled with the hardest doubles possible; she should be doing 3Flip+2Loop+2Loop, 3Loop+2Axel (seq) and 3Toe+2Axel (seq) as her combination jumps in the LP.
I've been wondering if she should try 3Loop-3Toe instead. Her loop is one of her best jumps, why waste the repeat on a 3Loop-2Axel sequence that is losing 20% value? She'd get more points out of 3Lo-3T and 2A-2A sequence than 2A-3T and 3Lo-2A sequence.
Originally Posted by R.D.
She also might be better served to do double loops on her combinations. One thing that helps Mao and Kanako pointswise is doing double loops on the backend of their combos. Even though they aren't 3-3s, they are worth 0.50 each more than double toe loops. Ashley used to try 3Lutz-3Loop back in 2007-8, so backend double loops shouldn't be difficult for her. If she wants to skate conservative and not do 3-3's, every fraction of a point counts. Or I wonder if she could try 2Axel-3Loop. An underrotated triple loop is still worth 3.57 points. She's said her double-footing is very psychological and it seems to be a big problem with her 2A-3T and 3F-3T attempts, maybe she needs to try something else just to mix it up a little.
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I think that she should do a 3-3 in the SP and for the FS:
spins/steps/choreography to get into the second half
After all, the idea of a 3T+2A+SEQ is not bad: the BV of this seq in the second half is 6.51, the BV of an UR 2A+3T in the first half is 6.20 plus the negative GOE for the two-footing, the highest she can reach with this combo is around 5.50; if she receives a positive GOE for the 3T+2A it could be more than 7 points. And we also have to remember that she often doesn't attempt the 3T if the landing of the 2A is not perfect, so a 3T+2A (I'm pretty sure that she's able to do it) could work well for her... Doing this, she would use the Murakami strategy: no 3-3 and no 2-3 in the FS, but still 7 triples using the sequences option...
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The only thing I would change is the place of 3Lz. It should be in the 2nd half, just like it is now, maybe change it with 3S or 3L.
Originally Posted by FSGMT
She'll need the 3-3 in the SP.
I see your original point, R.D., that Ashley often skates very well when she keeps the content conservative. But, I concur with everyone else that next year is not the time to play it safe. What is it they say--go big or go home? :-) Yes, Ashley could play it safe next year and come in 4th or 5th again. But she's already done that the last 2 years in a row. To have a chance for the podium, I think she needs the harder content. Although her PCS is steadily improving and the judges now clearly see her as one of the best, I don't think that alone will be enough to get her on the podium, because Kim, Kostner, and Asada all have great PCS as well. So I think she needs a little more on the technical side. Maybe some of the other posters are right that she should try some combinations other than 3F-3T and 2A-3T.
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