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    And what of Mirai Nagasu?

    How is she doing? I will never forget her Olympic skate, nor her youthful charm. Simply adorable. What is Mirai up to? Competitions? Any links?

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    Mirai has a lovely SP and exhibition this season: The Man I Love by Gershwin (choreo Cindy Stuart) and On Golden Pond (choreo Adam Rippon) respectively.
    Her FS is an 007 James Bond Medley (choreo Cindy Stuart) that starts off good but has confusing music cuts after 1:46 of the video. I sincerely hope, her team fix that before her GPs

    SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pJPTTRin2A
    FS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVIufDAjIgc
    EX: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAJ0hMV_PsQ

    She competed in Glacier Falls about a month ago and placed 3rd behind Courtney Hicks and Polina Edmunds. I wouldn't fret though because she was never much of a summer skater. Interesting to note that she is attempting a 3F-3T, 3Lz, 2A SP. Her FS includes a 2A-3T, two 3F (one in combo), 2 3L (one in combo), 3Lz, and 2A [I still think has the best axel out of any US lady]. She just competed at West Coast Championship in Valencia, CA and won the event. She is going to Finland this week to compete at Finlandia Trophy along with Vanessa Lam. Her main competition there are Akiko Suzuki and the Russians: Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, Julia Lipnitskaia, and Nikol Gosviani. [jw, why are Finlandia and Ondrej Nepela the same week? The field at Finlandia is packed while the US skaters at ON get easy ranking points]

    Mirai is slated to compete at NHK Trophy and Rostelecom Cup. These two GP events should give her a bye to nationals. After the withdrawal of Yuna Kim and Kiira Korpi, Mirai has the hardest mountain to climb to get to the GPF of the US ladies. I hope she medals at least at one of her events and skates good, clean performances. I think the only lady locked for the Olympics is Ashley Wagner at this point. I hope the next two berths are given fairly between Christina Gao, Gracie Gold, Courtney Hicks, and Mirai Nagasu. [Agnes hasn't proven that she can skate a good sp and lp back to back yet as a senior] But I'd always be rooting for Mirai~~~

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    Mirai and Vanessa Lam are competing at Finlandia this week.

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    I sort of feel sorry for Mirai. All that potential & talent, and she sort of fizzled out after Vancouver. I have no idea what happened, but I think it's going to be VERY difficult for her to get a spot on the Oly Team.

    I actually think that Gracie Gold has a good chance, provided she doesn't totally implode this season. I don't think federation's going to forget the fact that it's her & Ashley who brought home the 3 spots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icellist View Post
    Mirai has a lovely SP and exhibition this season: The Man I Love by Gershwin (choreo Cindy Stuart) and On Golden Pond (choreo Adam Rippon) respectively.
    Her FS is an 007 James Bond Medley (choreo Cindy Stuart) that starts off good but has confusing music cuts after 1:46 of the video. I sincerely hope, her team fix that before her GPs

    SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pJPTTRin2A
    FS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVIufDAjIgc
    EX: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAJ0hMV_PsQ

    She competed in Glacier Falls about a month ago and placed 3rd behind Courtney Hicks and Polina Edmunds. I wouldn't fret though because she was never much of a summer skater. Interesting to note that she is attempting a 3F-3T, 3Lz, 2A SP. Her FS includes a 2A-3T, two 3F (one in combo), 2 3L (one in combo), 3Lz, and 2A [I still think has the best axel out of any US lady]. She just competed at West Coast Championship in Valencia, CA and won the event. She is going to Finland this week to compete at Finlandia Trophy along with Vanessa Lam. Her main competition there are Akiko Suzuki and the Russians: Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, Julia Lipnitskaia, and Nikol Gosviani. [jw, why are Finlandia and Ondrej Nepela the same week? The field at Finlandia is packed while the US skaters at ON get easy ranking points]

    Mirai is slated to compete at NHK Trophy and Rostelecom Cup. These two GP events should give her a bye to nationals. After the withdrawal of Yuna Kim and Kiira Korpi, Mirai has the hardest mountain to climb to get to the GPF of the US ladies. I hope she medals at least at one of her events and skates good, clean performances. I think the only lady locked for the Olympics is Ashley Wagner at this point. I hope the next two berths are given fairly between Christina Gao, Gracie Gold, Courtney Hicks, and Mirai Nagasu. [Agnes hasn't proven that she can skate a good sp and lp back to back yet as a senior] But I'd always be rooting for Mirai~~~

    I am really curious to know how she did point wise at this competition..hopefully a step up from the Glacier Falls?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadia01 View Post
    I sort of feel sorry for Mirai. All that potential & talent, and she sort of fizzled out after Vancouver. I have no idea what happened, but I think it's going to be VERY difficult for her to get a spot on the Oly Team.
    I think she, like many women, struggled with her changing body. If you watch her videos from 2010 and see her now, you can see noticeable differences in her figure. (She is in shape now, just built more like a woman than a girl.) I also think she has had problems selecting the right programs. Those "cutesy" programs she did when she was younger worked quite well for her, but she hasn't had as much success with more mature, lyrical programs. I agree that it is unlikely that she will make the Olympic team, and I think it is due primarily to her problems rotating jumps in high-pressure situations like Nationals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadia01 View Post
    I sort of feel sorry for Mirai. All that potential & talent, and she sort of fizzled out after Vancouver. I have no idea what happened, but I think it's going to be VERY difficult for her to get a spot on the Oly Team.

    I think Mirai's problem is the weight of all those expectations along with a couple of injuries. At both World's and Olympics, she was in a position to win after the short program and then she had awful free skates. She started thinking about winning too much vs skating well IMHO. Then she had injuries and a changing body that just brought her 'down' and she hasn't found 'eye of the tiger' again to bounce back into contention.

    I also agree that she hasn't found the right music that helps her skate well. The fun bubbly stuff matched her personality vs what she has skated to more recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyang View Post
    I think Mirai's problem is the weight of all those expectations along with a couple of injuries. At both World's and Olympics, she was in a position to win after the short program and then she had awful free skates. She started thinking about winning too much vs skating well IMHO. Then she had injuries and a changing body that just brought her 'down' and she hasn't found 'eye of the tiger' again to bounce back into contention.

    I also agree that she hasn't found the right music that helps her skate well. The fun bubbly stuff matched her personality vs what she has skated to more recently.
    I don't know...I think she was poised to win bronze at Vancouver. She had a better skate than Rochette for me, and I'd hate to sound like a ***** but couple with more maturity in her style, I think Rochette won that bronze with a generous slice of condolence. But then again, at the Games, medals will always be given to those who take the crowd with them.

    I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Mirai. If not now, she always has 2018 as a final resort- especially if these Russian wunderbabies fail to reach their potential post-puberty? Should give Mirai enough time to bow out, hopefully in the way Shizuka did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyang View Post
    I think Mirai's problem is the weight of all those expectations along with a couple of injuries. At both World's and Olympics, she was in a position to win after the short program and then she had awful free skates. She started thinking about winning too much vs skating well IMHO.
    I don't think she really had any shot at WINNING in Vancouver. Yuna Kim was running away with it after SP. Maybe, maybe a bronze if she'd brought the 3+3 in the SP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCzar View Post
    I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Mirai. If not now, she always has 2018 as a final resort- especially if these Russian wunderbabies fail to reach their potential post-puberty? Should give Mirai enough time to bow out, hopefully in the way Shizuka did.
    I think this year is her last shot. If she hasn't been able to get her act together the last few years, how would 2018 be any different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyang View Post
    I think Mirai's problem is the weight of all those expectations along with a couple of injuries. At both World's and Olympics, she was in a position to win after the short program and then she had awful free skates.
    Huh?

    I don't think she was in any position to win in Vancouver, and I didn't think her free skate there was that awful. Am I missing something?

    I thought she sort of blew it away in Torino, but I blamed it on the long season & fatigue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadia01 View Post
    Huh?

    I don't think she was in any position to win in Vancouver, and I didn't think her free skate there was that awful. Am I missing something?

    I thought she sort of blew it away in Torino, but I blamed it on the long season & fatigue.
    You could tell just by the look on her face at Worlds before the LP that Mirai was not going to skate well. She let the moment get to her and she's done it more then once. Just look at Nationals 2011 when she was leading after the SP. After Alissa skated lights out Mirai looked nervous and beaten and didn't skate with any attack and instead made silly mistakes which is why Frank was so furious with her.

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    Mirai was in medal position in Torino, but she'd been in medal position many times before and got spooked just the same way. It seems as if she is terrified of winning and becoming the chased instead of the chaser.

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    Mirai is afraid of success in some ways, it seems

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Mirai was in medal position in Torino, but she'd been in medal position many times before and got spooked just the same way. It seems as if she is terrified of winning and becoming the chased instead of the chaser.
    Honestly I think it's impossible to know if she still struggles with this or not. I think her current 'main problem' is an inability to fully rotate jumps pure and simple. It's been years since she was in a position to become the chased (and this is from a huge Mirai fan).

    I think her main issues are (in no order)

    1. The USFSA gave up on her after World's when she fell to 7th instead of brushing it off and throwing full support behind her for the next season. I think her career may have gone slightly differently otherwise (but only slightly because of 2 and 3).

    2. Her body has changed since 2010. At times it seemed (and I think) she wasn't in ideal shape. However, now (as someone else said) she is in shape. Despite this, she has a woman's body and there's no way she is going to get rid of it without starving herself. Those are the breaks.

    3. Partly (I think) due to her body, and partly due to other issues she's had since pre-2010 really, she has a hard time consistently rotating her jumps. I think it is partly a technique issue (ironically, some of it 'good' technique- she reaches for the ice with her toe pick and thus comes down more quickly than if she did not) maybe partly a mental issue, probably partly a just having done it wrong for too long issue.

    4. In addition to all this, there is her problem with nerves, but at this point, I don't think that's what's killing her.

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