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    Brasseur & Eisler question

    Hoping some pairs experts can help answer a long-standing question I've had.

    B&E did two types of twists during their LP here.

    Scott describes the first as a "triple lateral." (http://youtu.be/Z2plbYk2E1I?t=1m23s).

    He calls the second a "triple twist," which is what the pairs are doing today. (http://youtu.be/Z2plbYk2E1I?t=3m8s).

    So what exactly is the "triple lateral" under COP? Does COP even recognize it? Do/have any other pairs performed that element? Did the former rules allow two types of twist lifts? Would two twists be allowed under IJS?

    Thanks!!!

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    And then there's their "fly high and say bye" lift, where he sort of tossed her over his head.

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    The twist is definitely the old way of doing twists and the lateral is the modern way of doing twists which became the only real way to do twists. Twists and lateral merged to become the only way to do twists based on the language of Hamilton. The question is what the old twist would be worth! LOL!

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    As long as the twist meets the criteria any team can use whatever form they are comfortable. In the 80s teams were sometimes completely vertical but it was usually on a double. Bulgaria and Belarus do those twists today.

    The lady being horizontal versus feet below the head is a coaching/skater's choice. They used to allow two twists in a program as part of the four lifts but they took that out, now you can only do one and have three lifts.

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    Several of Moskvina's early pairs used to do double axel twist lifts and some also did triple lutz twists in the same #

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