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    What's the latest on Plushenko and/or Lysacek's health & ability to compete in Sochi?

    I wonder if there have been any updates on either of them?

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    Here's a recent IceNetwork article, from Skate America, when Mishin was asked about Plushy's health:

    http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2013/10/20/63188258

    Also, these Eurosport snippets may be relevant:

    Evgeni's Truth - Part 1 (about his injuries and comeback):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IECQ9...ature=youtu.be

    Evgeni's Truth - Part 2 (about the competetive situation):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTmaUa8u_Ac

    (Simon made some mistakes in the first vid, that Chris corrected in the second. I'm starting to suspect that whoever does the "research"/"fact checking" at Eurosport just isn't very good... But that isn't really a relevant discussion for this thread.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRK View Post
    Here's a recent IceNetwork article, from Skate America, when Mishin was asked about Plushy's health:

    http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2013/10/20/63188258

    Also, these Eurosport snippets may be relevant:

    Evgeni's Truth - Part 1 (about his injuries and comeback):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IECQ9...ature=youtu.be

    Evgeni's Truth - Part 2 (about the competetive situation):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTmaUa8u_Ac

    (Simon made some mistakes in the first vid, that Chris corrected in the second. I'm starting to suspect that whoever does the "research"/"fact checking" at Eurosport just isn't very good... But that isn't really a relevant discussion for this thread.)
    He looks REALLY strong in these videos! and he seems a bit mellowed, which is good. I did not like his arrogance and take no prisoners attitude in the past but here he seems happy to compete and end his career in Russia, even if he doesn't win or even medal.

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    Evan was with a bunch of Team USA members on the Today show this week plugging the Olympic Team gear. No one asked him if he's going to Sochi, but he did say he was excited to wear the team uniform.

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    Are these two OGMs allowed to compete in the Team Event if they don't compete at Nationals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spikydurian View Post
    Are these two OGMs allowed to compete in the Team Event if they don't compete at Nationals?
    Evan doesn't have the required points yet to compete at all AFAIK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonichelle View Post
    Evan doesn't have the required points yet to compete at all AFAIK
    Does Plushenko have the points? He hasn't competed in years either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spikydurian View Post
    Are these two OGMs allowed to compete in the Team Event if they don't compete at Nationals?
    I wondered that too.

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    An article from October 28th where Evan mentions that he has resumed training: http://www.usnews.com/news/sports/ar...ps-in-practice

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateFan66 View Post
    An article from October 28th where Evan mentions that he has resumed training: http://www.usnews.com/news/sports/ar...ps-in-practice
    Good news. Looks like he may be participating at the US Nationals? All the best to him on his training.
    How about Plushenko? Is he returning to competition? I get the impression that he is likely to participate in the Team event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wordsworthgirl View Post
    He looks REALLY strong in these videos! and he seems a bit mellowed, which is good. I did not like his arrogance and take no prisoners attitude in the past but here he seems happy to compete and end his career in Russia, even if he doesn't win or even medal.
    He isn't arrogant!!!! The U.S. media ​​ portrayed him like a communist russian devil from the beginning, in contrast to the beloved skater Yagudin, who lived and trained in N-A. Their rivalry was more interesting in this way. Before and after Vancouver portrayed as an arrogant, pompous man and attacked him continously. He is quite well known, beloved and respected in other parts of the world. And who follows, knows him, who interested in him as a human realize that this is not true. He is interesting, strong man with a strong personality who is always honest. He says in all circumstances, what he thinks. Yes, not a smooth, always nice man, but a fighter. He has different personality on ice and in the civil life. But look at his career, results! Those are interrelated with his personality. A great athlete, a great person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wordsworthgirl View Post
    He looks REALLY strong in these videos! and he seems a bit mellowed, which is good. I did not like his arrogance and take no prisoners attitude in the past but here he seems happy to compete and end his career in Russia, even if he doesn't win or even medal.
    Plushenko is not arrogant, but of course with English being not his native language, he might seem a bit cold. He actually has a wonderful sense of humor which sometimes people just don't get, or intentionally misinterpret what he meant. From what I could say, He is a very warm person towards true fans.

    To answer your other questions, I do not know if Evan will need points and stuff, but Plushenko will attend Volvo cup (or something) in Riga on 7-8 Nov. He needs to get the minimum technical points for his LP (he has SP points from EURO2013). And in order to join the Olympics team, he will compete on COR and Russian Nationals. Of course also EC.

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    Plushenko skated at 2011-2012 Russian Nationals (he won), 2012 Europeans (he won, perhaps unjustly, but he won), 2012-2013 Russian Nationals (he won), and 2013 Europeans (WD after SP with injury, but obtained the TES minimum for the SP for the Olympics). He is scheduled for Volvo Cup in Riga, the Cup of Russia Grand Prix, and Russian Nationals this season; he obviously hopes to go to Euros and thereafter the Olympics, but he has already said that if he does not feel he is capable of skating four good programs, he will surrender his spot to someone else.

    Plushenko will be able to obtain TES minimums at COR and Euros; I do not know if he can get them at Volvo Cup, but he might be able to.

    Lysacek we have not seen hide nor hair of on the competitive circuit for four years, and I still doubt we will. Lysacek gets a free pass to US Nationals because of his OGM, but he does NOT have the TES minimums for 4CCs or the Olympics, therefore, he would have to go somewhere to get them if he qualified - and that's a very big IF, given the depth of the field at US Nationals.

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    I look forward to seeing both men compete, especially since both have put themselves through so much in order to try to do that. I hope Evan won't let his not having the quad end his journey prematurely.

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    As was mentioned by other Plushenko fans above, he is not arrogant, and I must say that I personally don't understand what is wrong with "take no prisoner attitude". Sometimes I wonder if it is a cultural thing. In particular, he has always been direct when it comes to his opinions about skating, which I believe is sinply because figure skating is truly important for him. I do think that he is in some ways an unusual person.


    (BTW, in the 2012 EC, He won by about 15 points, while suffering from major injuries with his knee and back, and I don't recall any serious suggestions of controversy here, or with any commentators that I recall. I think it was fair to say that there was quite a bit of excitement about it.)

    As most probably know, his back injury (lumbar spinal disc hernia) finally came to a head this January, when he had to withdraw from the EC. He had a total disc replacement, which is a major operation. In particular, according to the doctor, the actual disc involved was essentially gone, and there were problems with the next disc, the nearby ligaments, etc. To try to come back to competitive skating after something like this was, in essence, going "into the unknown". I don't dare say that he will make it, but he has been trying.

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