And in regards to Adelina and Liza having such problems with jumps, you wish! Adelina has landed 3Lz-3L. Even with deduction for the edge it will count. And don't forget that now is still pre-season. Compare what Adelina skated with what Kaetlyn Osmond skated recently and you may notice that it is not much difference in not fully landing jumps pre season. Kaetlyn Osmond did not exactly shine either.
2 years ago people thought Shelepen was a lock for the Euros and Worlds team, and likely would have made both if she hadn't bombed the SP so badly at Nationals that year.
It's pointless to talk about any of the Russian girls beating Kim, Kostner, or Asada at this point because it's never going to happen unless Koster and Asada have meltdowns of epic proportion. Liza going foot-perfect with 7 triples and 2 double axels matches the FS score Kostner and Asada can earn with an okay skate with 2-3 major errors, and then Liza would need to skate a good SP on top of that to even challenge, and she skated one good SP last season, at Nationals, every other competition her SP was not good, and sometimes even disastrous. Adelina can challenge Kostner and Asada with one error each in the SP if she's clean and doesn't pop or fall on her flip, and gets no more than one < on any of her jumps, but then there's the FS and if she continues to try two flips in her FS it's highly likely she'll pop or fall on at least one of them, give up at least one combination and get riddled with the +SEQ deduction, and then there's the 2a to worry about because she's so prone to falling out of it these days, which again puts her at risk of missing the 2a-3t combo or only managing 2a-2t, and then there's the spin entrances she sometimes messes up because she goes into them too forcefully. So yeah, a clean Adelina can maybe squeak out a win over a Kostner or Asada with 4+ errors between their two programs each, but how likely is that to happen?
So really, it is a moot point that someone like Pogorilaya or Korobeynikova has no chance at beating Mao or Carolina because Tuk and Sot really don't have much of a chance either...
Usually people are talking about pogorilaya or lipnitskaia Or korobeynikova replacing the team of tutsmksheva and sotnikova at Olympics or euros and then it becomes about how none of them - except Liza or Adelina- would have any prayer of beating the big three and therefore would never be sent by the Russian federation but then It has to be mentioned that no one was talking about Koro pogo or Julia beating the big three and Liza or Adelina can't do It either so what's the big deal? I wish these could stay focused on the Russian team and how precarious Liza and adelina's positions are and not have it morph into Julia vs Kim when it wouldn't even be Adelina vs Kim or Kostner or Mao! Kostner can do double salchows twice against Liza and Adelina!!! Mao 3 triples against Julia! But Julia can beat Liza and Adelina
This thread makes my blood boil and hope that Liza sweeps all before her this season.
Moris Kvitelashvili SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4wGgA-_SzI with 3A now and quad, could do well representing Georgia for their men
Alsu Kayumova FS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IhITeWwsQg
Yanovskaia/Mozgov SD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8SQJqbv_tQ
Tarasova/Morozov FS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-MEMtgnNXw
Sergei Voronov SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksDppUpyh9A
Murad Kurbanov SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqiBIub9xiw
Adelina Sotnikova FS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER1n5XiJ5gg
Alexei Genya FS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w7u-uONFsg