This is from last year:
This is from last year:
This season is a limitation - 14 years old or elder at date of beginning of Nationals.
Medvedeva is eligible, Proklova, Sotskova, Sakhanovich, Ogoreltseva - are not.
And at Russian Cup Events (senior) may take place only singles, who are 14 or elder. And in singles nobody can be at both Junior and Senior Events (only Senior or Junior).
So elder-age skaters have a chance.
Agafonova (7 place of Russian Cup I) and Zaseeva (10 place) have not so high chance because of their not so good state.
Past season Agafonova had two 5th places of Events, Zaseeva two 6th places, i.e. better results of Russian Cup Events - in more difficalt situation, because they competed also with very young skaters. For example, 4 of 5 Ladies who were ahead Zaseeva at Russian Cup V, were younger than 14.
What do you mean by that, Alex Russ? are you saying that anyone under the age of 14 can't compete at Russian senior nationals, or are you saying that they won't be able to qualify through the JGPF? If you mean that no one under the age of 14 can attend Senior nationals, then Agafonova and Zaseeva have a good chance because there are not that many 'older' skaters there.
We can look at the link I posted above (post 496) and see how many of the girls who qualified ahead of Agafonova and Zaseeva will not be able to take part this year.
I know I’ve said this before (many times!) in relation to the GP Series, but I don’t understand why the governing bodies only allow such a small number of competitors to compete in competitions like these.
Like, having only 12 places available in the Pairs competition is ridiculous. Similarly, 15 places in the Dance is also too few. 18 places in the Singles competitions is getting more like it, but is still a bit on the low side when you consider how many singles skaters there are competing in Russia.
Personally, if it was me, I would have 24 places available in ALL categories in National Championships. You know, 6 groups of 4 competitors, with re-surfacing after every 8 competitors. (Incidentally, for the GP Series, I would have 16 places in each category at each event).
Whether there are enough entries to fill all the places is another matter, but at least the places would be there if they were needed.
But, this is getting off topic.
It will be interesting to see who does join the 8 ladies you have listed in this year’s Nationals. As we have both acknowledged, Kristina Zaseeva won’t qualify this year. But I really hope Polina Agafanova pulls it together for her second qualifying event...
Can anyone explain to me why the Russian Federation are going to waste one JGP slot? For the next event there is only Medvedeva, and they have so many good ones to send... Why do you bother with nominating substitutes if they don't get send anyway when the slot becomes available? Or why Yushenko didn't get the slot that is going to get wasted this weekend? And why Kaiumova still has second slot, while Ogoreltseva doesn't have her second slot despite finishing second in her first event? Perhaps they are going to swap Yushenko for Kaiumova in the last event?
Ogoreltseva will get a second JGP slot probably replcement for Kayumova who is a non factors, Yuschenko just recently did well in national meets so it must have been too late to put her on the list, there is also Li who has a JGP despite not doing well in recent Russian competition finishing 6th
other 1 time season skaters like Titushkina, Gerasimova last season have probably retired
or at least Tiushkina has
Titushkina retired? Since when? I haven't heard anything.
I don't think there is such a rule. Adelina won senior national championships when she was only 12 years old. Liza also competed in senior nationals at that age.
Last year there were some other very young skaters in senior nationals (Sakhanovitch, Ogoreltseva etc). But AlexRus says that it's a new rule for this season. So the irony is that some of those who were allowed to compete in seniors last season won't be allowed to compete in seniors any more until they are 14. On one side I think it's a pity, but I can understand the reason behind that. It must be difficult to have the majority of ladies in seniors age ineligible for Europeans/worlds. Then you have no one to send to those important competitions. Then you may have to send a skater who placed 4th and 6th as it was a few years ago.
I think it's a good rule. It looks bad when you send skaters to Euros and Worlds who were beaten at their Nationals by a skater not eligible for another 4 years.
They did change the rule for senior GP, but only from the season after Olympics.
To be honest, I don't mind if 12 years old compete against 20 years old. Yes, they do have the advantage of being lighter and having tinier bodies, but then again they have disadvantage of not having the maturity and the skating skills, so it balances itself out. This is a sport and it will never be completely fair. One could argue that it is not fair that some 16-17 years old is competing against 30 year old because the older skaters would have more injuries, stiffer joints and everything gets harder at that age. So if it is considered fair that you may compete against someone half your age (16 y.o. against 32 years old), then I think it is fair that 12 years old are competing against 20 years old.
I guess she is heading the Shershak, Sheveleva route who are retired
some of this skaters wont make big nationally anyways
Gersimova, Titushkina etc. were bound to retire, its a wonder Agafonova hans't retired despite placing 7-9th in national competitions
I think this 14 years old rule is better, those 12 year old wonders some wont be the same in 2 years and wont probably make another nationals
so this year only Medvedeva can compete from the current JGP skaters, Proklova, Sakhanovich, Sotskova cannot
men wont be affected much in JGP, Petrov is 14, Pitkeev and Samarin just turned 15