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Thread: Very early top 10 predictions per discipline for Sochi

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    Yeah but they can change their minds if she wins silver or bronze.
    My bold prediction is Miki Ando will make the Olympic podium if she comes back with a coach lol

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    Miki could win nationals against Mao. That is not an impossibility. But even if it was Mao, Miki, Suzuki, Murakami they wouldnt send Miki to Sochi? What they would assign her to 4CC and she would go? Yeah right. The Japanese federation knows from how they treated Miki when she was beaten at nationals and then sent to the Olympic what can happen! That skater can bomb awfully! So Miki if she wins a medal will go. No matter what anyone is saying like she has to win. It's just very doubtful that would hold. If it is a written rule that said skaters must have competed the previous season or participated in a GP it will have an emergency revision and if it is just a statement doubtful that would be held to. Either way written rule or verbal statement it will be thrown out. I have read the statement but don't know if the basis is written rule or statement.

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    Men:
    1. Chan (whether he goes clean or splats on 3 jumps, the judges will still ensure he wins)
    2. Fernandez
    3. Ten
    4. Hanyu
    5. Takahashi
    6. Reynolds
    7. Brezina
    8. 3rd Japanese skater
    9. Amodio
    10. Joubert

    Women:
    1. Kim
    2. Asada
    3. Kostner
    4. Wagner
    5. Gold
    6. Lipnitskaya
    7. Murakami
    8. Suzuki
    9. Sotnikova
    10. Osmond

    Pairs:
    1. Volosozhar/Trankov
    2. Savchenko Szolkowy
    3-6. Some order of Duhamel/Radford, Moore-Towers/Moscovitch, Pang/Tong, and Bazarova/Larionov. If Vera can somehow learn to jump, they could potentially take the bronze. Otherwise, any order of those 4 teams is completely plausible.
    7. Kavaguti/Smirnov
    8. Scimeca/Knierim
    9. Denney/Coughlin
    10. Berton/Hotarek

    Dance:
    1. Davis/White
    2. Virtue/Moir
    3. Bobrova/Soloviev (purely because of home ice advantage)
    4. Cappellini/Lanotte
    5. Ilinykh/Katsalapov
    6. Pechalat/Bourzat
    7. Weaver/Poje
    8. Chock/Bates
    9. Shibutani/Shibutani
    10. 3rd Russian team (R/T, S/Z, or even S/B)

    Team:
    1-United States
    2-Canada
    3-Russia
    4-Japan
    5-Italy
    6-France
    7-China
    8-Germany
    9-Spain
    10-South Korea (do they even have a pair or a men's skater?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 96skiluvr View Post
    Team:
    1-United States
    2-Canada
    3-Russia
    4-Japan
    5-Italy
    6-France
    7-China
    8-Germany
    9-Spain
    10-South Korea (do they even have a pair or a men's skater?)
    Korea have not men skater, pair, ice dance who can compete in Olympics.
    But Spain also don't have woman skater, pair, ice dance for Olympic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by venlac View Post
    Korea have not men skater, pair, ice dance who can compete in Olympics.
    But Spain also don't have woman skater, pair, ice dance for Olympic.
    Spain has Lafuente for ladies, and Hurtado/Diaz for dance

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    Quote Originally Posted by 96skiluvr View Post
    Spain has Lafuente for ladies, and Hurtado/Diaz for dance
    I have said about whether there are skaters who can go to Sochi Olympics.
    Spain have no tickets for 2014 olympics, in ladies, ice dance, pair.

    If you just asked about whether korea have male skater and pair, yes, they have.

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    As long as those skaters reach minimums it doesn't matter if they didn't qualify for their discipline they can do team.

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    This is as irresistible as it is impossible. Here goes!

    Ladies:
    1. Kim
    2. Gold*
    3. Kostner
    4. Asada
    5. Murakami
    6. Sotnikova
    7. Wagner
    8. Osmond
    9. Lipnitskaya
    10. Suzuki

    Men
    1. Hanyu
    2. Chan
    3. Fernandez
    4. Ten
    5. Aaron
    6. Takahashi**
    7. Reynolds
    8. Mura
    9. Brezina
    10. Farris

    Dance
    1. Davis/White
    2. Virtue/Moir***
    3. Weaver/Poje
    4. Pechalat/Bourzat
    5. Bobrova/Soloviev
    5. Cappellini/Lanotte
    6. Chock/Bates
    7. Ilinyk/Katsalapov
    8. Hubbell/Donohue
    9. Riazanova/Tkachenko
    10. Zhiganshina/Gazsi

    Pairs
    1. Volosozhar/Trankov
    2. Savchenko/Szokowy
    3. Duhamel/Radford
    4. Moore Towers/Moscovitch
    5. Pang/Tong
    6. Bazarova/Larionov
    7. Scimeca/Knierim
    8. Kavaguti/Smirnov
    9. Sui/Han
    10. James/Cipres

    *Gold in silver may seem crazy, but her content is awesome, and she only needs to polish. Not so for most others.
    **Takahashi would win gold if I could make it so, but I just think he's transitioning out of the competitive ranks.
    ***I've had a nagging feeling that those persistent V/M injuries could derail this season, and they could retire before Sochi. No evidence, just a gut sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    As long as those skaters reach minimums it doesn't matter if they didn't qualify for their discipline they can do team.
    Not quite so. Please see the two "Additional Athlete" restrictions for the Olympic team event that I have highlighted below.
    Along with the minimum technical scores, these restrictions also might affect whether certain countries will have skaters in all four disciplines of the team event:

    (1) "NOCs/ISU Members who do not have qualified Skaters/Couples in an individual OWG competition/discipline (Single Lady, Single Man, Pair Skating, Ice Dance), may benefit of an “Additional Athletes Quota” and enter into the Figure Skating Team Event 1 Skater/Couple. If applicable, each NOC may benefit of this Additional Athletes Quota for only one discipline of the Figure Skating Team Event."

    (2) "The Additional Athletes Quota of up to 10 Skaters will be used giving preference to the best ranked “incomplete Teams” according to the ranking of the Figure Skating Team qualification list. The Additional Athletes Quota beyond the above-mentioned 10 Skaters cannot be exceeded and if not sufficient, the lower ranked “incomplete Teams” according to the ranking of the Figure Skating Team qualification list, may in such case not be able to complete their team."

    One pair or one dance couple counts as two skaters toward the overall quota of ten.
    So it is possible that the quota of ten will be used up among higher-ranking countries, and that one or more teams from the lowest-ranked countries will be left incomplete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    Not quite so. Please see the two "Additional Athlete" restrictions for the Olympic team event that I have highlighted below.
    They also might affect whether certain countries will have skaters in all four disciplines of the team event:

    (1) "NOCs/ISU Members who do not have qualified Skaters/Couples in an individual OWG competition/discipline (Single Lady, Single Man, Pair Skating, Ice Dance), may benefit of an “Additional Athletes Quota” and enter into the Figure Skating Team Event 1 Skater/Couple. If applicable, each NOC may benefit of this Additional Athletes Quota for only one discipline of the Figure Skating Team Event."

    (2) "The Additional Athletes Quota of up to 10 Skaters will be used giving preference to the best ranked “incomplete Teams” according to the ranking of the Figure Skating Team qualification list. The Additional Athletes Quota beyond the above-mentioned 10 Skaters cannot be exceeded and if not sufficient, the lower ranked “incomplete Teams” according to the ranking of the Figure Skating Team qualification list, may in such case not be able to complete their team."

    For the overall quota of ten, one pair or one dance couple counts as two skaters.
    So it is possible that the quota of ten will be used up among higher-ranking countries, and that one or more teams from the lowest-ranked countries will be left incomplete.
    So its not as blanket as a I was recalling!

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    Men
    1. Patrick Chan
    2. Yuzuru Hanyu
    3. Denis Ten
    4. Javier Fernandez
    5. Evgeni Plushenko
    6. Max Arron
    7. Daisuke Takahashi
    8. Jeremy Abbot
    9. Kevin Reynolds
    10. Brian Joubert


    Do you guys think Patrick Chan will attempt this 4-3-3 next season? or was it just for fun?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=FBra3ElV9uE

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    Quote Originally Posted by bibi24 View Post
    Men
    1. Patrick Chan
    2. Yuzuru Hanyu
    3. Denis Ten
    4. Javier Fernandez
    5. Evgeni Plushenko
    6. Max Arron
    7. Daisuke Takahashi
    8. Jeremy Abbot
    9. Kevin Reynolds
    10. Brian Joubert


    Do you guys think Patrick Chan will attempt this 4-3-3 next season? or was it just for fun?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=FBra3ElV9uE
    I hope it was not just for fun. Though the landing of 3loop was messy, it looked fully rotated to me.

    My pick:

    Men

    1.-3. Chan, Fernandez, Hanyu (not sure about the order)
    4. Takahashi
    5. Plushy (If he will be there)
    6. Ten
    7. Brezina
    8. Reynolds
    9. Joubert
    10. Abott

    Ladies

    1. Kim (no doubt about that)
    2. Asada (please Mao, work on 3f3lo!!!)
    3. Wagner
    4. Kostner (she has not convinced me YET)
    5. Murakami (too bad about the UR´s, I really started to like her)
    6. Li (please little Li, work on your flutz!!! it is making me sad)
    7. Suzuki
    8. Sotnikova
    9. Gold (I know, 9 is low but I am unsure about her ability to handly the pressure )
    10. Tuktamisheva

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    Just for the heck of it, I'm going to go against the grain with the ladies and predict as follows:

    1. Carolina Kostner
    2. Yu Na Kim
    3. Mao Asada
    4.Ashley Wagner
    5.Gracie Gold
    6. Akiko Suzuki
    7. Lipnitskaya
    8. Sotnikova
    9. Murakami
    10. Osmond

    For the men, not including Plushenko or Lysacek:

    1. Chan
    2. Fernandez
    3. Takahashi
    4. Hanyu
    5. Ten
    6. Aaron
    7. Abbott
    8. Reynolds
    9. ?
    10. ?



    Quote Originally Posted by Kuan View Post
    I hope it was not just for fun. Though the landing of 3loop was messy, it looked fully rotated to me.

    My pick:

    Men

    1.-3. Chan, Fernandez, Hanyu (not sure about the order)
    4. Takahashi
    5. Plushy (If he will be there)
    6. Ten
    7. Brezina
    8. Reynolds
    9. Joubert
    10. Abott

    Ladies

    1. Kim (no doubt about that)
    2. Asada (please Mao, work on 3f3lo!!!)
    3. Wagner
    4. Kostner (she has not convinced me YET)
    5. Murakami (too bad about the UR´s, I really started to like her)
    6. Li (please little Li, work on your flutz!!! it is making me sad)
    7. Suzuki
    8. Sotnikova
    9. Gold (I know, 9 is low but I am unsure about her ability to handly the pressure )
    10. Tuktamisheva

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    I'm inclined to think Patrick's 4-3-3 combo was just for fun. If it isn't, not a very good decision because it won't even help him noticeably increase the BV of his free skate. He should practice a more difficult quad instead if he's going for more jump content.

    Or keep the current layout and focus on skating clean because he hasn't been doing it for over a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fadeevfan View Post
    This is as irresistible as it is impossible. Here goes!



    **Takahashi would win gold if I could make it so, but I just think he's transitioning out of the competitive ranks.
    Fadeevfan, I'm with you about Takahashi! If our thought waves could do it....sigh. But it won't matter in the long run. He will be a spectacular performer if he decides to continue as a pro, and he's lucky enough to live in a country where ice shows are still a big thing, so he'll have opportunities. The rest of us poor souls around the world can watch him on YouTube. What this guy has doesn't depend on his world ranking: like Kurt Browning, he transcends Olympic results. (It would be lovely if he did get on the podium, though!)

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