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    News Plushenko plans to compete in team & individual events in Sochi

    According to this interview, Evgeni Plushenko plans on competing in both team and individual events in Sochi:
    http://www.team-russia2014.ru/article/figur/10700.html

    Keypoints from the interview:
    - He thinks there is enough time in between the events to recover for the individual competition.
    - He said it's great to have a team event.
    - He is planning to compete in the GP in Moscow and some other national and international events, and also the European Championships
    - He is now preparing his new programs at the base in Novogorsk, but didn't yet give any information about them
    - He is not travelling to Israel for a scheduled check up by the doctor who did the back surgery as this doctor is coming to Russia and will see him there

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    I hope it won't be too hard on his body.

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    I just really hope that he doesn't end up destroying himself with this.

    The Russian Fed really weren't thinking about the broader picture when they sent Kovtun to Worlds, were they?

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    Comments from Alexei Mishin:
    http://www.team-russia2014.ru/article/figur/10702.html

    Keypoints:
    - right now Plushenko is working with choreographers Maxim Staviski and David Avdysh
    - Mishin's vision this season is to combine the art of skating and ballet art in the programs of his students and so they are working with Staviski (Plushenko) and Jeffrey Buttle (Lisa Tuktamysheva, Artur Gachinski) on the skating skills and with Avdish (Plushenko) and Anton Piminov as well as Juri Smekalov (both from the Marinskii Theatre; for Lisa and Artur) on the ballet/dance part.
    - from June 17, Mishin's students will take part in the training camp in Pinzolo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatjana View Post
    According to this interview, Evgeni Plushenko plans on competing in both team and individual events in Sochi:
    http://www.team-russia2014.ru/article/figur/10700.html

    Keypoints from the interview:
    - He thinks there is enough time in between the events to recover for the individual competition.
    - He said it's great to have a team event. ....
    Good thing that Plushenko is planning to compete in both team and individual events in Sochi. Practically speaking, he does not have any other choice.

    As previously discussed in other threads, Team Russia's one man who competes in the Sochi individual event is the only man who is eligible to compete in the men's portion of the team event.

    If Plushenko is Russia's designated man for the Olympic individual event, and he does not compete in the team event, then Team Russia will have no man skating in the team event. Team Russia is not allowed to have a different man skate only in the team event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    Good thing that Plushenko is planning to compete in both team and individual events in Sochi. Practically speaking, he does not have any other choice.

    As previously discussed in other threads, Team Russia's one man who competes in the Sochi individual event is the only man who is eligible to compete in the men's portion of the team event.

    If Plushenko is Russia's designated man for the Olympic individual event, and he does not compete in the team event, then Team Russia will have no man skating in the team event. Team Russia is not allowed to have a different man skate only in the team event.
    Obviously Russia has only one entry in the men's event and there is no option for him to be substituted. I posted this information because there was some speculation (even from Russian skaters) that Plushenko, in case he gets to go to Sotchi, will skip the team event and focus on the individual event only in order to save strength. Russia of course would have been at a huge disadvantage without an entry in men's singles and would have been robbed of any medal chances. Maxim Trankov said that they won't do the team event either if no man is competing, because it would be pointless.
    Now Plushenko has made it clear that he is willing to compete in both events. Actually I thought from the beginning that the Russian man, whoever it is, should focus on the team event as the chances to medal here should be quite good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    As previously discussed in other threads, Team Russia's one man who competes in the Sochi individual event is the only man who is eligible to compete in the men's portion of the team event.
    Okay. Let's say Plushenko DOES compete in the Team event. But during the free skate, he gets injured. He's now unable to skate the individual. Can Russia replace him for the individual event or is it a case of "too bad, so sad"?

    Because if it's the latter, I dislike the team event even more.

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    Interesting question. I think he could be replaced before the draw was done like in other competitions.
    I'll see if I find this information in the regulations for the Olympic Games published by the ISU.
    There should be something as late withdrawals happen all the time with skaters getting sick or injured just before a competition.

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    I didn't find yet what I was looking for, but I found something else in the document on the qualification system for Sochi that is interesting:
    "Also, the same NOCs/ISU Members must have their Skaters competing in all the competitions/disciplines of the Figure Skating Team event for which they have entries in the individual OWG competition/discipline. This means that if for example an NOC/Member has only one entry for a discipline/competition, this Skater or couple may not choose to skate only the individual OWG competition and skip the Figure Skating Team Event competition."

    So Plushenko wouldn't have been able to "skip" the team event, but it is also mentioned in the document that a whole team can opt not to compete in the team event. So it is all or nothing for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatjana View Post
    Obviously Russia has only one entry in the men's event and there is no option for him to be substituted. I posted this information because there was some speculation (even from Russian skaters) that Plushenko, in case he gets to go to Sotchi, will skip the team event and focus on the individual event only in order to save strength. Russia of course would have been at a huge disadvantage without an entry in men's singles and would have been robbed of any medal chances. Maxim Trankov said that they won't do the team event either if no man is competing, because it would be pointless.
    Sorry, Tatjana, I should have been more clear in my previous post. Thank you for starting the thread and sharing the interview.
    I did not mean to suggest that you were unaware of the team rules.

    But from other threads, I have noticed that some members of GS are not yet familiar with all the team rules. (Totally understandable because Sochi will be the first Olympics to have the team event.) I was giving the full context in case it would be helpful to those individuals.

    I hadn't known what Trankov said. Thanks for making us aware.

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    very ambitious goal
    good luck and good health for Zhenya

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    So does this mean that the competition for the men's slot at Sochi is over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    So does this mean that the competition for the men's slot at Sochi is over?
    In Plushenko's interview, he always mentions that if his results from competitions were good, he hopes to participate in OG. So he still has to earn his spot.

    As for the speculations regarding whether he would attend team event if he made it to the OG team, since Russia only has one spot, he has to (if he made it to the national OG team). But actually he talked about team events long before Russia lost the second spot. Right from the beginning he mentioned in several interviews that how cool to have team competition, and he probably would attend the team competition. So this is not new that he expressed interest in attending team event (of course, now, he has no choice).

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    Again it is moronic that the team competition is not the last skating event of the Olympics. That way at least the skaters could compete and not worry about getting hurt before the individual events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammers View Post
    Again it is moronic that the team competition is not the last skating event of the Olympics. That way at least the skaters could compete and not worry about getting hurt before the individual events.
    agreed and not to mention skaters competing in TE can suffer burnout
    skaters who have no TE like Kim Yuna just guaranteed her gold or even Javier

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