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Thread: Plushenko plans to compete in team & individual events in Sochi

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    agreed and not to mention skaters competing in TE can suffer burnout
    skaters who have no TE like Kim Yuna just guaranteed her gold or even Javier
    To be fair, though, I think Yuna would still win gold even if she did have to compete in a TE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammers
    Again it is moronic that the team competition is not the last skating event of the Olympics. That way at least the skaters could compete and not worry about getting hurt before the individual events.
    It the team event were last, then it could go the other way around. A skater could be injured in his attempt to medal in the individual competition, causing his team to lose because of his absence in the team competition.

    In the past there was no team competition, so the individual medals were considered very important. Maybe that will switch around in the future, as the team event gets more traction.

    For that matter, a skater might get run over by a bus on his way to practice and miss both.

    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20
    agreed and not to mention skaters competing in TE can suffer burnout
    Are they Olympic athletes? Suck it up!

    Beach volleyball players Misty May and Kerry Walsh, at the summer games, played grueling best-of-three set matches on July 28, July 30, August 1, August 3, August 4, August 5, August 6, August 7, and August 8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    So does this mean that the competition for the men's slot at Sochi is over?
    http://fskating.com/2013/06/alexei-m...ng-better.html

    Plushy:
    “We are planning several events – both Russian and international. Among them, besides Grand Prix, there are Russian nationals, European Championships, and, of course, if all goes well, the Olympic Games in Sochi.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatjana View Post
    http://www.team-russia2014.ru/article/figur/10702.html
    they are working with Staviski (Plushenko) and Jeffrey Buttle (Lisa Tuktamysheva, Artur Gachinski) on the skating skills and with Avdish (Plushenko) and Anton Piminov as well as Juri Smekalov (both from the Marinskii Theatre; for Lisa and Artur) on the ballet/dance part.
    Not exactly. He didn't say Staviski is working on SS with Plu. He mentioned only that Maxim is choreographing his new SP together with Avdysh. Pimenov choreographed Liza's SP, Smekalov- Artur's LP.

    Jeffrey will visit the training camp in Italy for 5-6 days where he will work on SS with all three skaters- Plush, Liza, Artur.

    Here is a more detailed interview on the official site of RusFed: http://fsrussia.ru/news/609_aleksej-...-specialistov/

    I actually posted all this information on Plu fan thread yesterday. But probably not everyone goes to that subforum.

    In addition- Plu confired his participation in PIW in July in Tokyo where he plans to show one of his new competitive porgs, either SP or LP.


    As for the Team Event in Sochi, Trankov probably doesn't know the rules. The only Russia's skater in Men must compete in Team Event, he can't skip it. And I agree with those who think that the schedule to have Team Event before Individuals is stupid. We should be grateful to NBC for that. Wasn't it reported that it was them who insisted on having Ladies event the last one because it's always the last and the most popular in the US?

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    He who pays the piper calls the tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    He who pays the piper calls the tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by let`s talk View Post
    Not exactly. He didn't say Staviski is working on SS with Plu.
    This was my wording, of course. But Mishin pointed out that the "skating part" is Maxim's work which IMHO implies that he is working on skating skills with him, too.

    Original quote from the article: "Вы знаете, в работе с Женей я также стараюсь свести воедино два направления: высокую культуру петербуржской школы балета, которую олицетворяет выпускник балетмейстерской кафедры нашей Консерватории Давид Авдыш и катание на коньках – это работа Максима Ставиского."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatjana View Post
    This was my wording, of course. But Mishin pointed out that the "skating part" is Maxim's work which IMHO implies that he is working on skating skills with him, too.

    Original quote from the article: "Вы знаете, в работе с Женей я также стараюсь свести воедино два направления: высокую культуру петербуржской школы балета, которую олицетворяет выпускник балетмейстерской кафедры нашей Консерватории Давид Авдыш и катание на коньках – это работа Максима Ставиского."
    Based on google translation, I thought what Minshin meant is that David is focus on the ballet concept while Maxim is on the skating part for creating the short program. But I could be wrong since I do not know Russian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karne View Post
    I just really hope that he doesn't end up destroying himself with this.

    The Russian Fed really weren't thinking about the broader picture when they sent Kovtun to Worlds, were they?
    They all agreed kovtun was a total guarantee that Russia would have two spots. Send kovtun-get two spots- automatic! That was their broad picture.

    It's not okayed that plushenko can jump yet. Even if he is not approved on June 11 maybe later. Still not good though. I'm sure there will be lots of tests on the disc replacement and everything.

    It does seem like the rules are written in such a way that just like you can't replace a skater during sp and lp you can't replace a skater between team and individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaya124 View Post
    Based on google translation, I thought what Minshin meant is that David is focus on the ballet concept while Maxim is on the skating part for creating the short program. But I could be wrong since I do not know Russian.
    I also think that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    In the past there was no team competition, so the individual medals were considered very important. Maybe that will switch around in the future, as the team event gets more traction.

    Are they Olympic athletes? Suck it up!

    I agree. I know athletes budget their energy for runthroughs, but these are seasoned athletes who have to compete their SP and FS many times a week. Burnout is a minor issue considering how well-trained these athletes are. Obviously dealing with injury magnifies the potential for burnout, but at least the team event is great for Plushenko because it's his best shot at a 4th Olympic medal, and a chance to size up the competition. I hope he won't invest all his energy into the team event, and puts out a solid performance that contributes to Russia's success, and then turns it on in the actual men's event. With Ten and Fernandez out of the picture, he likely won't need to do as much to place decently. It will also be a good opportunity for him to see how the judges are scoring him and the levels on his elements and if there's anything he needs to tweak for the men's event (and that goes for all skaters competing in the TE).

    I also agree that it's better to have the team event first because a skater who medals in their individual event might be more tempted to pull out (at the expense of their team) should they happen to medal or meet their expectations.

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    Good luck to Plushy! I hope he medals in the team event!

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    I will be interested to see how he recovers and if his body can hold up to two events relatively close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatjana View Post
    This was my wording, of course. But Mishin pointed out that the "skating part" is Maxim's work which IMHO implies that he is working on skating skills with him, too.

    Original quote from the article: "Вы знаете, в работе с Женей я также стараюсь свести воедино два направления: высокую культуру петербуржской школы балета, которую олицетворяет выпускник балетмейстерской кафедры нашей Консерватории Давид Авдыш и катание на коньках – это работа Максима Ставиского."
    I can read the original article, don't worry. The катание на коньках doesn't mean anything in details in Russian. The whole sport is officially called фигурное катание на коньках. And it surely doesn't mean one of PCS. The Russian term for Skating Skills that is used in RusFed books is Уровень катания for Singles/Pairs and Мастерство катания for Ice Dancing. In conversations/interviews coaches/skaters/fans/media usually use the same Уровень катания, or владениe коньком (Mishin used it when he was talking about Buttle), sometimes скольжениe (культура скольжения). Mishin often puts it even more beautifully in Russian: «катательного» мастерства, высокой культуры катания, мастерства владения коньком. His Russian in general can be quite charming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    the team event is great for Plushenko because it's his best shot at a 4th Olympic medal ... . With Ten and Fernandez out of the picture, he likely won't need to do as much to place decently.
    And if Ten and Javi were in the picture, he wouldn't have a chance to place decently, which is surely below PChan and who knows else, according to SC officers? Party go on!
    How many pages will this Plush page will get with CSG around? 50? 7?

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