2013 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic: Sep 11-15 [Salt Lake City, Utah]

aftertherain · Sep 12, 2013

Jackie Wong is doing a live play-by-play on his Examiner website. This is what he has so far:
http://www.examiner.com/article/2013-u-s-int-l-classic-play-by-play-and-results-pairs-short-program

(As of 9:51 PM, Eastern Time)

Pairs' short (FINAL)
1. Kirsten Moore-Towers/Dylan Moscovitch CAN - 68.52
2. Marissa Castelli/Simon Shnapir USA - 62.26
3. Caydee Denney/John Coughlin USA - 61.66
4. Tarah Kayne/Daniel O'Shea USA - 60.31
5. Paige Lawrence/Rudi Swiegers CAN - 59.30
6. Felicia Zhang/Nathan Bartholomay USA - 49.73
7. Andrea Davidovich/Evgeni Krasnopolsky ISR - 43.70

Kirsten Moore-Towers/Dylan Moscovitch CAN - triple twist, side-by-side triple toe (Moscovitch step out), throw triple loop - love this program and great choice to bring it back for one more season - TES 37.46, PCS 31.06, SP SCORE 68.52

Paige Lawrence/Rudi Swiegers CAN - side-by-side triple toe (Swiegers fall), triple twist, smooth/pretty lift, throw triple lutz (foot down) - TES 32.10, PCS 28.20, FALL -1.00, SP SCORE 59.30

Tarah Kayne/Daniel O'Shea USA - triple twist, side-by-side triple salchow (best sbs so far!), throw triple loop (hangs on) - I liked this team last year during the smaller competitions, lookin good! - TES 34.77, PCS 25.54, SP SCORE 60.31

Andrea Davidovich/Evgeni Krasnopolsky ISR - triple twist (rough catch, caught on landing, two-foot), side-by-side triple toe (Davidovich downgrade), throw triple salchow (hangs on) - TES 25.24, PCS 18.46, SP SCORE 43.70

Marissa Castelli/Simon Shnapir USA - triple twist (just a bit tight on the catch but big), side-by-side triple salchow (Shnapir fall), throw triple salchow - potentially good program, seems a bit new in terms of synchronization for them right now - TES 35.04, PCS 27.86, FALL -1.00, SP SCORE 62.26

Caydee Denney/John Coughlin USA - triple twist (big as always), side-by-side triple toe (a bit off-sync, Denney possibly underrotated, hand down), throw triple lutz (hand down) - nice return, not perfect but definitely feeling even more power and flow than before - TES 34.04, PCS 27.62, SP SCORE 61.66

Felicia Zhang/Nathan Bartholomay USA - triple twist, side-by-side triple toe (Bartholomay fall), throw triple lutz (fall) - definite improvements as a pair, too bad about the falls, great solid lift late in the short - TES 29.93, PCS 21.80, FALLS -2.00, SP SCORE 49.73

TSL are also doing a brief live play-by-play on their FACEBOOK (stopped with Twitter, don't know why):
https://twitter.com/SkatingLesson

(As of 9:49 PM, Eastern Time)

The Skating Lesson
a few seconds ago via mobile
Moore-Towers and Moscovitch: nice split 3 twist. Best ice coverage of the group. He turned out of 3 toe. She looks really solid and confident. Huge throw 3 loop. Strong skate and a lot of confidence; at this point, Duhamel and Radford's short is stronger.

The Skating Lesson
4 minutes ago via mobile
Lawrence and Swiegers: He fell on the sbs 3 toe. Nice positions on lift. Fun program. Throw lutz as last element, foot down on landing and leaning in the air. 59.3. 4th.

The Skating Lesson
9 minutes ago via mobile
O'Shea and Kayne: Obsessed with her dress. Holy sparkles. Nice split 3 twist. Sbs 3 sals. Held on to landing of throw 3 loop. James Bond. He's in a tux. She does a really good job selling it. Footwork lasts a really long time; program dies a bit at the end. Throw would have been more dynamic later in the program. Overall, strong skate. 60.31. 3rd. Should have been higher.

The Skating Lesson
15 minutes ago via mobile
Krasnapolsky and Davidovich: collided on split 3 twist catch, she 2-footed and underrotated sbs 3 toes, huge throw sal. Lots of toe scratching. Nice lift. Lack edge quality and speed. Throw was strongest element. 43.70. 4th.

END OF PAIRS' SHORT PROGRAM.

SaraM · Sep 12, 2013

Any videos surfaced?

aftertherain · Sep 12, 2013

SaraM said:
Any videos surfaced?

It just ended twenty minutes ago. Doubt it. Men's short program is coming up according to TSL.

aftertherain · Sep 12, 2013

As of 10:42 PM, Eastern Time

MEN'S EVENT IS ON!

JACKIE WONG, EXAMINER

Men's short (standings so far)
1. Stephen Carriere USA - 77.48
2. Grant Hochstein USA - 63.29

QUAD COUNT: 1 attempted (Hochstein toe), 0 clean

Stephen Carriere USA - triple axel, triple loop, triple lutz-triple toe (possibly two-foot) - TES 42.89, PCS 34.59, SP SCORE 77.48

Grant Hochstein USA - quad toe (hand down)-double toe, triple axel (possibly underrotated, fall), triple lutz, fall in the middle of step sequence - TES 33.13, PCS 31.16, FALLS -2.00, SP SCORE 63.29

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The Skating Lesson
3 minutes ago via mobile
Stephen Carriere: Beautiful 3 axel. Weird bobble on the front camel. Footwork into 3 loop. Dave says his outfit looks like his dance costume in 3rd grade? 3lutz-3toe. Nice angsty face during the footwork. A lot of Lysacek head rolling going on. Spins could be faster. That was the best I've seen him skate in years. Proud of him. 77.18. 1st.

The Skating Lesson
8 minutes ago via mobile
Grant Hochstein: He skates like Shawn Sawyer. 4toe hand down-2 toe. Scary axel takeoff, swingy and big fall. Gorgeous skater and music. Obsessed with his fingers. Nice footwork into 3 lutz. Weird trip during the footwork. Finished a bit behind the music. Loved the program. 63.29.

---Twitter

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Big ovation for Stephen. #SLC2013
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 5m
Carriere waited until he landed the jumps to sell it. Lots of angsty face and Lysacek head throwing. #SLC2013
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 11m
Crowd still loves Grant. #SLC2013
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 13m
Grant reminds us of Shawn Sawyer. Hand down on quad toe+double toe. Lovely hands. Fall on 3 axel like Detroit. 3 lutz. #SLC2013
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 16m
Grant is rocking the quad. #MKForever #SLC2013
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aftertherain · Sep 12, 2013

As of 10:54 PM, Eastern Time

MEN'S EVENT IS ON!

JACKIE WONG, EXAMINER

Men's short (standings so far)
1. Stephen Carriere USA - 77.48
2. Joshua Farris USA - 72.58
3. Grant Hochstein USA - 63.29
4. Michael Christian Martinez PHI - 59.65

QUAD COUNT: 2 attempted (Hochstein toe, Farris toe), 0 clean

Joshua Farris USA - quad toe (step out), super entry into triple axel, triple lutz-double toe, tripped in the middle of step sequence - TES 38.40, PCS 34.18, SP SCORE 72.58

Michael Christian Martinez PHI - triple axel (hangs on), double lutz-triple toe (foot down, hand down, could be counted as a fall), triple loop (step out) - TES 31.64, PCS 29.01, FALL -1.00, SP SCORE 59.65

Stephen Carriere USA - triple axel, triple loop, triple lutz-triple toe (possibly two-foot) - TES 42.89, PCS 34.59, SP SCORE 77.48

Grant Hochstein USA - quad toe (hand down)-double toe, triple axel (possibly underrotated, fall), triple lutz, fall in the middle of step sequence - TES 33.13, PCS 31.16, FALLS -2.00, SP SCORE 63.29

THE SKATING LESSON, FACEBOOK&TWITTER

---Facebook

The Skating Lesson
30 seconds ago via mobile
Max's quad sal is beyond bam. He is my work-ethic husband.

The Skating Lesson
2 minutes ago via mobile
Josh Farris: Such strong artistry. Step out of quad; really strong attempt. 3 axel hung on. Skating a lot better than during warmup. Forward landing on 3lutz-2 toe. Trip during footwork. Program loses you at the end. Seemed very focused but lost steam at the end. 72.58. 2nd.

The Skating Lesson
3 minutes ago via mobile
Michael Martinez: Men should not wear puffy capped sleeves. Romeo and Juliet. Huge height on his 3 axel. 2lutz-3 toe sit down, but his butt did not touch the ice. Nice back donut spin. I like him. He has a very nice back. Turnout of 3 loop. Good passion and nice moments during the footwork. Great flexibility. Just needs to work on his confidence; the jumps were nailed during warmup. 59.65. 3rd place. I want to have him on the show to fan girl over him.

The Skating Lesson
3 minutes ago via mobile
Stephen Carriere: Beautiful 3 axel. Weird bobble on the front camel. Footwork into 3 loop. Dave says his outfit looks like his dance costume in 3rd grade? 3lutz-3toe. Nice angsty face during the footwork. A lot of Lysacek head rolling going on. Spins could be faster. That was the best I've seen him skate in years. Proud of him. 77.18. 1st.

The Skating Lesson
8 minutes ago via mobile
Grant Hochstein: He skates like Shawn Sawyer. 4toe hand down-2 toe. Scary axel takeoff, swingy and big fall. Gorgeous skater and music. Obsessed with his fingers. Nice footwork into 3 lutz. Weird trip during the footwork. Finished a bit behind the music. Loved the program. 63.29.

---Twitter
The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 1m
Brilliant jumps from Max Aaron during warm up. #SLC2013
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 18s
Max is a walking muscle. It is working for us. #SLC2013
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 57s
Max Aaron going to shimmy in white. Looking good in warm up. #SLC2013
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 58s
Bobble on footwork. Some very nice choreography but music and program drops off a bit for Farris. Lovely skater. #SLC2013
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 1m
Josh Farris turned out of quad toe. Much improved. 3 axel. Held on for dear life. Good. 3lutz + 2 toe. Fought the entire program #slc2013
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 4m
We love @skating102
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 5m
Joshua Farris keeps it old school. Circa 95. #SLC2013
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 6m
The boys love Romeo and Juliet. We all want to be Sasha Cohen minus the token splats. #slc2013
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 4m
Big ovation for Stephen. #SLC2013
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 5m
Carriere waited until he landed the jumps to sell it. Lots of angsty face and Lysacek head throwing. #SLC2013
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 11m
Crowd still loves Grant. #SLC2013
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 13m
Grant reminds us of Shawn Sawyer. Hand down on quad toe+double toe. Lovely hands. Fall on 3 axel like Detroit. 3 lutz. #SLC2013
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The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 16m
Grant is rocking the quad. #MKForever #SLC2013
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Tonichelle · Sep 12, 2013

Judging by my facebook newsfeed Max Aaron just rocked at least one quad...

Lightspear · Sep 12, 2013

Glad to see Carriere competing with the elite group of skaters again. His practice sessions these last 2 days have been quite good.

herios · Sep 12, 2013

Max will probably lead the way from the gates through the season an leave only one ticket to Sochi on the table for grabs. He is one determined young man.

aftertherain · Sep 12, 2013

As of 11:37 PM, Eastern Time

JACKIE WONG, EXAMINER
http://www.examiner.com/article/2013-u-s-int-l-classic-play-by-play-and-results-men-s-short-program

Men's short (FINAL)
1. Max Aaron USA - 81.49
2. Stephen Carriere USA - 77.48
3. Joshua Farris USA - 72.58
4. Grant Hochstein USA - 63.29
5. Alexei Bychenko ISR - 62.19
6. Christopher Caluza PHI - 61.79
7. Michael Christian Martinez PHI - 59.65
8. Andrei Rogozine CAN - 58.39
9. Stanislav Samohin ISR - 56.84
10. Charles Pao TPE - 34.62

QUAD COUNT: 4 attempted (Hochstein toe, Farris toe, Aaron sal, Rogozine toe), 0 clean

Andrei Rogozine CAN - quad toe (possibly downgrade, two-foot), spread eagle into triple axel (step out), triple flip (turn out)-double toe - TES 27.73, PCS 30.66, SP SCORE 58.39

Alexei Bychenko ISR - triple axel, triple flip-triple toe (step out), triple lutz (step out) - TES 32.27, PCS 29.92, SP SCORE 62.19

Stanislav Samohin ISR - triple axel (fall), triple lutz (possibly underrotated), triple salchow-triple toe - TES 27.17, PCS 30.67, FALL -1.00, SP SCORE 56.84

Christopher Caluza PHI - spread eagle into double axel, triple loop-triple loop, triple lutz - TES 29.55, PCS 32.24, SP SCORE 61.79

Max Aaron USA - quad salchow (hand down)-triple toe, triple lutz, triple axel, a bit of a trip right before the step sequence, but very much enjoying the new choreography tricks Aaron's picked up - TES 44.57, PCS 36.92, SP SCORE 81.49

Charles Pao TPE - single lutz (step out), triple salchow (step out), double axel - TES 14.20, PCS 20.42, SP SCORE 34.62

Joshua Farris USA - quad toe (step out), super entry into triple axel, triple lutz-double toe, tripped in the middle of step sequence - TES 38.40, PCS 34.18, SP SCORE 72.58

Michael Christian Martinez PHI - triple axel (hangs on), double lutz-triple toe (foot down, hand down, could be counted as a fall), triple loop (step out) - TES 31.64, PCS 29.01, FALL -1.00, SP SCORE 59.65

Stephen Carriere USA - triple axel, triple loop, triple lutz-triple toe (possibly two-foot) - TES 42.89, PCS 34.59, SP SCORE 77.48

Grant Hochstein USA - quad toe (hand down)-double toe, triple axel (possibly underrotated, fall), triple lutz, fall in the middle of step sequence - TES 33.13, PCS 31.16, FALLS -2.00, SP SCORE 63.29

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(The duo cited they were very tired. The did stay for C. Caluza, but presumably left afterwards--I believe they landed in SLC today.)

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The Skating Lesson
a few seconds ago via mobile
Christopher Caluza: First guy not in black or white. Sass before spread eagle 2 axel. Footwork into nice 3loop-3loop. This is a fun program. 3 lutz. Very entertaining skater. He gives good footwork face.

The Skating Lesson
45 seconds ago via mobile
Max Aaron: Showing some cleavage. 4sal hand down-3 toe. Huge 3 lutz. Total BAM 3 axel. His spins look better. Sells it before the footwork and almost trips..really difficult straight line step sequence, complete with shimmy. Much improved second mark. I want him to channel 10% of Nobu and give us some footwork face, though. Really strong debut; this will be a good program for him. 81.49. 1st.

The Skating Lesson
51 seconds ago via mobile
Charles Pao: I cannot sign off on his white vest. Level 4 pop on his 3 lutz. Turned out of 3 sal. 2 axel. Skating skills need work. Interesting choreography. I enjoyed the arm roll. Please lose the vest. 34.62. 5th.

---Twitter

The Skating Lesson ‏@SkatingLesson 1m
Christopher Caluza is quite charming. We are very tired and staying for him. Lovely camel. #SLC2013
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@MaxTAaron hand down on quad sal. Still does 3 toe. Easy 3 lutz. 3 axel. Sells it and trips a bit. Crowd loves the personality. #SLC2013
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MEN'S SHORT PROGRAM IS NOW OVER.

ghislaine · Sep 12, 2013

Max is a very good performer and I like the step sequence, but other than that the program is very empty. Carriere was a pleasant surprise.

ice coverage · Sep 13, 2013

ghislaine said:
Max is a very good performer and I like the step sequence, but other than that the program is very empty. Carriere was a pleasant surprise.

Just curious: were you watching online or did you attend the event in person? FWIW, one person's opinion on Twitter:

@skating102

Some twitter banter about not liking Max's short...live, it works. #SLC2013 [emphasis added]
8:10 PM - 12 Sep 13
https://twitter.com/skating102/status/378355055487119361

aftertherain said:
... Men's short program is coming up according to TSL.

Appreciate all the updates, but LOL, let's not [ETA, missing word :eek:

: "get"] carried away glorifying TSL.

It's not as if they have exclusive access to the schedule.

aftertherain · Sep 13, 2013

golden411 said:
Appreciate all the updates, but LOL, let's not carried away glorifying TSL. It's not as if they have exclusive access to the schedule.

True, but they're there. Jackie Wong didn't put up the Men's SP post until after I posted here. It's hard enough keeping track of (and constantly refreshing) three webpages while trying to watch stuff on YouTube to pass the time (no IN subscription). :biggrin:

karne · Sep 13, 2013

Thanks for the links and pbp everyone. Now keeping an eye out for any videos. Glad people seem to like Max's new program and the reaction seems a bit mixed for Josh. I want to see Carriere's program pretty bad, the boy must have SOLD it.

Ah, I was wondering about the 71.85, and the breakdown on IceNetwork's results page explains a lot: he only got level 3 for his change foot camel, level 2 for the step sequence and a paltry level 1 for his CCoSp.

ice coverage · Sep 13, 2013

aftertherain said:
True, but they're there. Jackie Wong didn't put up the Men's SP post until after I posted here. It's hard enough keeping track of (and constantly refreshing) three webpages while trying to watch stuff on YouTube to pass the time (no IN subscription).

Understood that TSL is on the ground in SLC, but you missed my point. No biggie.
Thx again for the commentary.

Selene · Sep 13, 2013

I thought Max's new short program was okay. There were moments where he captured the Latin flavor of the music & I could tell he's been taking ballroom lessons. He's never going to be Jeremy Abbott out there, but I liked what I saw for so early in the season.

A.H.Black · Sep 13, 2013

Just a note about dance practice. Didn't get there in time to see Weaver/Poje except at the end for a bit. What I saw was fine.

Now. About Davis/White - We saw the new lifts and partial run through for Scheherazade. It will do just fine, thank you. The lifts just leave everyone else looking like they are in a box while Davis/White are waay outside the box. The first - he pulls her straight off the ice on onto his back - I'm not quite sure how they manage it as it looks impossible. The second one is a hand stand with about six other positions. The last is a no-hand spin - it's a little bit slow right now but they are obviously working on speed. When it get fast it will be amazing. The choreography is very Scheherazade/Davis/White. It's wonderful. Oh, finally the music picks up speed at the end and so do Meryl and Charlie. When this gets going, they will be flying. Needless to say, the audience was very appreciative.

Now I just need to see what Virtue/Moir have in mind.

One other note about pairs. Kayne/O'shea are definitely competition skaters. They looked so much better in competition than in practice. What a great quality to have.

aftertherain · Sep 13, 2013

A.H.Black said:
Now. About Davis/White - We saw the new lifts and partial run through for Scheherazade. It will do just fine, thank you. The lifts just leave everyone else looking like they are in a box while Davis/White are waay outside the box. The first - he pulls her straight off the ice on onto his back - I'm not quite sure how they manage it as it looks impossible. The second one is a hand stand with about six other positions. The last is a no-hand spin - it's a little bit slow right now but they are obviously working on speed. When it get fast it will be amazing. The choreography is very Scheherazade/Davis/White. It's wonderful. Oh, finally the music picks up speed at the end and so do Meryl and Charlie. When this gets going, they will be flying. Needless to say, the audience was very appreciative.

Now I just need to see what Virtue/Moir have in mind.

Oh, thank you! I don't know why, but I'm getting so emotional right now! :biggrin:

ice coverage · Sep 13, 2013

@SkatingLesson

Max Aaron wants us to know that tonight's costume is NOT his real costume. #SLC2013
9:49 PM - 12 Sep 13
https://twitter.com/SkatingLesson/status/378379946323759104

aftertherain · Sep 13, 2013

golden411 said:
Appreciate all the updates, but LOL, let's not carried away glorifying TSL. It's not as if they have exclusive access to the schedule.

I know what you meant now. Goodness gracious, I am a bit slow today.

golden411 said:
@SkatingLesson

Max Aaron wants us to know that tonight's costume is NOT his real costume. #SLC2013
9:49 PM - 12 Sep 13
https://twitter.com/SkatingLesson/status/378379946323759104

Funny thing: I don't even know what he wore, so I can't be suprised or upset about it. :laugh:

ETA -- A few photos from the event: http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/3W3NOgVcPkd/International+Figure+Skating+Classic/browse

Mrs. P · Sep 13, 2013

Okay, so I realize I've been more negative than I like on these boards (and in general) with my comments on TSL, so I will contrast it with some comments on the Men's SP I watch on Ice Network on-demand.

Stephen Carriere's program was my favorite. He really sold that SP, even though the music is to Scheherazade. Also, awesome that he got all level fours (he had a bobble in the camel spin, so good for him for managing to keep it together there). He always have had the capability of surprising. so I'm glad there was some of that today -- he's in second!

Josh's program has potential. It think it's a HUGE improvement choreography wise as it forces him to project more than his more inward/classical programs in the past. And he did seem to project a whole lot more than in the past. That said, I think he needs to grow into it a little more. I feel the choreography/music is probably still a bit big for him, but I think it will improve and grow with time.

And Max, great job. That SP scored well considering the amount of points he left on the table in TES. Get some of those spins up to level 4 (and the level 1 spin up to 3 or 4) and get the combo clean and you got the potential high-80s and maybe even low-90s if he gets a second quad in. I do see that he working more on the artistry side though his work is far from done. But again it's the first competition of the season, so I didn't expect polish just yet.

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